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Lord on a Juggernaut, daemon axe, sigil, mok, gift of worthlessness...i mean mutation

10 csm
2 meltas, exchange for close combat weapons, power weapon, mok, rhino, dirge caster, dozer blade

10 csm
2 plasma guns, power weapon, mok, rhino, dirge caster, dozer blade

10 berzerkers
power weapon, icon of wrath, gift of mutation

Chaos land raider
dirge caster, dozer blade

5 bikers
2 melta guns, power weapon, melta bombs, gift of mutation, icon of wrath

helldrake
the money maker that is the bale flamer

1500points total. looking for help at 1500 points and beyond! my local area mostly plays 1500 to 1850, but am willing to take it to 2000 points if need be. also willing to add in daemons.

seems like a pretty good list so far. Id add another heldrake just because they are effective and really irritate people. Throw in some oblitz too with MoN thatll give you some more firepower

I just added a daemon detachment and fortifications.

Herald of Khorne - Juggernaut, 1 lesser gifts, locust of wrath - 130

Bloodletters x 10 - 100

Flesh hounds x17 - 281

Aegis w/ quadgun - 100


611 pts.

Bloodletters get BS5 on the quad gun.

I would also recommend 5 more bikes, since you dont have MoN you could go for quantity over quality as I do, I think its better than throwing the mark on them. And I would give the bike champ a PF instead of a PW.

If you want to go for something less assulty, a pair of vindicators with combi bolter can do a lot for damage.

I recommend unmarked spawns to accompany your jugger lord if you dont want bikes.

Try to squeeze a second Heldrake in. With only one, it will get focused down very quickly...

Well met all of it. I like the spawn idea probably the most. I agree two fliers would be better than the one when playing more than 1500 points. I have not had poblems as of yet with only one at 1500 points. I have decided to go away from one god and go with an undivided force.

I haven't came up with anything yet but looking at the mon oblits, also pondering mon spawns. I was thinking of adding in some daemonettes with a herald for some telepathy perhaps. I will post a new list as soon as i am done running numbers and reading the rules for a few units.

So I have a desire to use a Warpsmith, the only problem is i do not know what to stick him with. Does anyone have any ideas on this subject?

The warpsmith is a little over-priced and not as useful as the other HQs IMO. You can get a lot of benefit out of the cheaper Chaos Lord.

If you really want the Warpsmith try to free up the points to get the Burning Brand of Skalathrax, that and the x2 Heldrakes would be mean

"lord on a juggernaut"

What's that mean? A lord on terminator armor?

a juggernaugt is a demoinc mount it maens exactly what it says

drop gifts of worthlessenes and put extra armor on raider or destroyer blades on the rhinos as once they unload their cargo you can throw them at someones face for extra damage also this tank shock bunches them up so if you were to give the cc squad a flamer you could score ALOT of hits