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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/30 14:21:34
Subject: Multiple Heavy weapons in Imperial Guard PCS and CCS
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Can Platoon Command Squads and Company Command Squads carry more than one heavy weapon?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/30 15:11:32
Subject: Multiple Heavy weapons in Imperial Guard PCS and CCS
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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masterdoobie wrote:Can Platoon Command Squads and Company Command Squads carry more than one heavy weapon?
No. Your codex will tell you this, just look in the relevant entries.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/30 15:41:35
Subject: Re:Multiple Heavy weapons in Imperial Guard PCS and CCS
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Regular Dakkanaut
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No. Your codex will tell you this, just look in the relevant entries.
If that was clearly written, why would I have asked about it?
CCS section says - "replace two other veterans with a veterans weapons team armed with the following:"
PCS section says - "replace two other guardsmen with a Heavy weapons team armed with the following:"
Neither of these entries stipulate that you can only field 1 Heavy weapon team, yet I've never seen or heard of anyone doing otherwise. Is there a definitive answer as to whether you can or not?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/30 15:48:49
Subject: Multiple Heavy weapons in Imperial Guard PCS and CCS
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Actually it does. It allows you "a" heavy weapons team or "a" veteran weapon team. "A" is singular.
It also only allows you to replace "two" guardsmen or veterans. To get additional weapons you would have to replace more than two guardsmen or veterans.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/30 16:04:02
Subject: Re:Multiple Heavy weapons in Imperial Guard PCS and CCS
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I see what you're saying with it being singular, however my question is more about how many of these heavy weapons teams can you have. As in you can replace two guardsmen for a heavy weapons team, but can you replace another two? The rules say "two other" and there are four guardsmen in total.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/30 16:14:10
Subject: Re:Multiple Heavy weapons in Imperial Guard PCS and CCS
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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masterdoobie wrote:I see what you're saying with it being singular, however my question is more about how many of these heavy weapons teams can you have. As in you can replace two guardsmen for a heavy weapons team, but can you replace another two? The rules say "two other" and there are four guardsmen in total.
No, because the book says "two" not "four".
Equally, do you think you can have four medics? Or four regimental standards? No, because the book doesn't say you can.
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Note to the reader: my username is not arrogance. No, my name is taken from the most excellent of commanders: Lord Castellan Creed, of the Imperial Guar- I mean Astra Militarum - who has a special rule known only as "Tactical Genius"... Although nowhere near as awesome as before, it now allows some cool stuff for the Guar- Astra Militarum - player. FEAR ME AND MY TWO WARLORD TRAITS. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/30 16:21:06
Subject: Re:Multiple Heavy weapons in Imperial Guard PCS and CCS
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Regular Dakkanaut
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No, because the book says "two" not "four".
Equally, do you think you can have four medics? Or four regimental standards? No, because the book doesn't say you can.
The codex actually says "two other" and there's not need for the attitude. I'm just enquiring about an area that isn't that clear.
Returning to the topic, why is it then that the infantry squad says "replace two guardsmen with a heavy weapons team armed with the following:" yet for the CCS and PCS they intentionally wrote "two other"? Are we sure they did not intend for us to use multiple heavy weapon squads?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/30 16:37:55
Subject: Multiple Heavy weapons in Imperial Guard PCS and CCS
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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I can understand how you might think this, but the way the entry is worded I think it is supposed to be sequential:
One can have option A
One B
One C
Two others may have HW
Any others can have any of the other options.
Everyone I know interprets that as one HW in a CS. If you can find an opponent or TO who agrees, then fill your boots.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/30 16:56:02
Subject: Re:Multiple Heavy weapons in Imperial Guard PCS and CCS
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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masterdoobie wrote:No, because the book says "two" not "four".
Equally, do you think you can have four medics? Or four regimental standards? No, because the book doesn't say you can.
The codex actually says "two other" and there's not need for the attitude. I'm just enquiring about an area that isn't that clear.
Returning to the topic, why is it then that the infantry squad says "replace two guardsmen with a heavy weapons team armed with the following:" yet for the CCS and PCS they intentionally wrote "two other"? Are we sure they did not intend for us to use multiple heavy weapon squads?
No attitude anywhere. If you want an answer, don't complain when somebody points you to where you can find it.
On topic:
The reason it says "other" is because the options are referring to individual models. "One model" may take X, One model may take Y, two other models may take Z, any model without X, Y, Z may take A, B or C. The options refer to individual models, not a "model number" requirement for each upgrade.
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Note to the reader: my username is not arrogance. No, my name is taken from the most excellent of commanders: Lord Castellan Creed, of the Imperial Guar- I mean Astra Militarum - who has a special rule known only as "Tactical Genius"... Although nowhere near as awesome as before, it now allows some cool stuff for the Guar- Astra Militarum - player. FEAR ME AND MY TWO WARLORD TRAITS. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/30 17:05:21
Subject: Re:Multiple Heavy weapons in Imperial Guard PCS and CCS
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I guess that is all settled then. Oh and also, I checked the errata which cleared up the difference between the wording as the infantry squad and veteran squad was changed to “Replace two other ..." consistent with the PCS and CCS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/30 17:10:00
Subject: Multiple Heavy weapons in Imperial Guard PCS and CCS
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Lord of the Fleet
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"other" is to exclude you giving a heavy weapon to a guy with a medi-pack or other upgrade.
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