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2013/08/28 00:54:47
Subject: Church kicks family out for not hating lesbian daughter
Kat Cooper is a detective with the Collegedale Police Department in Collegedale, Tennessee. Her family has attended the same church for three generations and because they love her, they are no longer welcome by the congregation.
The Ridgedale Church of Christ discovered the Cooper family supporting Kat’s fight to get the city to extend government employee benefits to gays and lesbians. Kat herself is also a lesbian. So when the Ridgedale Church saw a picture of her family in attendance at the city council meeting in which the council approved the new measure, they issued the family an ultimatum: apologize in front of the congregation for not hating your lesbian daughter or be kicked out of the church.
Naturally, the Coopers chose to leave the church rather than submit to the hateful values it now practices. That seems to suit minister Ken Willis just fine. He claims that it was the duty of the church to reject the Coopers for openly standing by their daughter instead of abandoning her. In his eyes, the family should have chosen hate over love. That’s interesting, considering the fact that Jesus commands us to love our neighbors no matter what in the very Bible conservative Christians cherry-pick and misinterpret to justify their hatred of others. Church is supposed to be a place that welcomes anybody. Apparently that is no longer the case. And religious fanatics wonder why people are leaving the church in droves.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
2013/08/28 00:57:29
Subject: Church kicks family out for not hating lesbian daughter
No idea what it is but American churches seem to attract a lot of bigotry from whiny christians. Well that's from a Dutch point of view.
Religion as it's used since when they started is terrible anyway.
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
2013/08/28 01:17:37
Subject: Church kicks family out for not hating lesbian daughter
Kat Cooper is a detective with the Collegedale Police Department in Collegedale, Tennessee. Her family has attended the same church for three generations and because they love her, they are no longer welcome by the congregation.
The Ridgedale Church of Christ discovered the Cooper family supporting Kat’s fight to get the city to extend government employee benefits to gays and lesbians. Kat herself is also a lesbian. So when the Ridgedale Church saw a picture of her family in attendance at the city council meeting in which the council approved the new measure, they issued the family an ultimatum: apologize in front of the congregation for not hating your lesbian daughter or be kicked out of the church.
Naturally, the Coopers chose to leave the church rather than submit to the hateful values it now practices. That seems to suit minister Ken Willis just fine. He claims that it was the duty of the church to reject the Coopers for openly standing by their daughter instead of abandoning her. In his eyes, the family should have chosen hate over love. That’s interesting, considering the fact that Jesus commands us to love our neighbors no matter what in the very Bible conservative Christians cherry-pick and misinterpret to justify their hatred of others. Church is supposed to be a place that welcomes anybody. Apparently that is no longer the case. And religious fanatics wonder why people are leaving the church in droves.
Big whup. Find another church. There are probably 3 to the seventh power churches in Tennessee.
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2013/08/28 01:50:03
Subject: Church kicks family out for not hating lesbian daughter
Well its been at least a week since we've had a "Christers are evil and dumb" thread. Thats like 5,000 years in Human time.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2013/08/28 01:58:23
Subject: Re:Church kicks family out for not hating lesbian daughter
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2013/08/28 02:04:40
Subject: Re:Church kicks family out for not hating lesbian daughter
*Unless they happen to love a neighbour you don't like.
*Stares angrily at No. 37*
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
2013/08/28 02:11:32
Subject: Re:Church kicks family out for not hating lesbian daughter
Frazzled wrote: Well its been at least a week since we've had a "Christers are evil and dumb" thread.
What makes you think this church represents all Christians? Seems a bit silly to make such a broad statement.
Its not the church its the posts immediately after.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2013/08/28 02:23:45
Subject: Re:Church kicks family out for not hating lesbian daughter
Being unbiased is no sign of truth, and having a bias doesn't make someone a liar. It doesn't change the facts at hand.
generalgrog wrote: My only question is why did they allow the lesbian mother to stay ad only when they were at this town hall or whatever did they act?
I'm not 100% sure what you are saying here. The lesbian in question didn't attend the church. When the daughter stood up for her rights and her family backed her the church found out and told them they had to either give up their daughter or their church. That is a choice in the same sense as when your father asked you "do you want to go mow the lawn" i.e. to any non donkey-cave family that isn't a choice at all.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
2013/08/28 02:44:01
Subject: Re:Church kicks family out for not hating lesbian daughter
Ahh ok..I thought that the detective was the mother, but she is the daughter.
But the problem with the article, is that it says they were kicked out for not "hating" their daughter. That is the problem with it's bias.
I am not saying I agree at all with what the church did, in fact, I think if the facts are correct, it was a pretty reprehensible thing to do. But the article is way too politically charged and biased.
GG
2013/08/28 02:46:51
Subject: Re:Church kicks family out for not hating lesbian daughter
Nice. Another church to add to my "Avoid these %(&^((*$(&^##)%(&$#". I stick to Bacchus. God of Wine and Orgies is more fun
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2013/08/28 03:26:35
Subject: Re:Church kicks family out for not hating lesbian daughter
Achem: The Bible on men such as a Reverend who advocates that one should hate:
"But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep. " - 2 Peter 2:1-3
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2013/08/28 04:30:51
Subject: Church kicks family out for not hating lesbian daughter
BaronIveagh wrote: Achem: The Bible on men such as a Reverend who advocates that one should hate:
"But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep. " - 2 Peter 2:1-3
That about sums it.
2013/08/28 04:52:21
Subject: Church kicks family out for not hating lesbian daughter
I am not saying I agree at all with what the church did, in fact, I think if the facts are correct, it was a pretty reprehensible thing to do. But the article is way too politically charged and biased.