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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/07 22:50:57
Subject: Ghostwalk Mantle
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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Can you charge after teleporting using the Ghostwalk mantle / veil of darkness as part of the same player turn?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/07 22:54:04
Subject: Ghostwalk Mantle
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Point the first: Wrong Forum, should be in YMDC. If you click the little yellow triangle of friendliness, you can ask a mod to move it.
Point the second: Do the Deep Strike rules allow you to charge after Deep Striking?
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/07 23:12:36
Subject: Ghostwalk Mantle
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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Oops. I'll yellow triangle now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/08 01:29:37
Subject: Ghostwalk Mantle
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Irked Necron Immortal
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You cannot charge or move after Deep Striking. The only two actions you can have are Run, or Shoot.
I believe however Vargard's special rule allows him to Deep Strike into CC if and only if Nemisor Zandrek or his unit was charged the same turn. Even in that case Vargard doesn't charge after DS. His special rule just allows him to DS into CC to protect Nemisor Zandrek. I don't have the codex on me right now so that IMHO
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/08 01:57:33
Subject: Ghostwalk Mantle
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He can DS out of combat with his unit.
If zandrehk is assaulted Obyron only by himself consolidates into that combat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/08 11:29:46
Subject: Ghostwalk Mantle
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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Damn. That's what I thought. Was wondering if teleporting across the table, using deep strike might be different to entering play with deep strike, but I guess not.
Shame. Quite hard to find ways to use him other than CCB Zandhrak up the field, sweep, then charge the unit and then zap Vargard and his unit up the table and into the combat and have him challenge whoever is worth is in the opposing combat...
Seems like his real strength though would be solo charging firewarriors or something. Difficult to see how else to maximise his abilities though...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/08 12:52:17
Subject: Ghostwalk Mantle
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I'll Be Back
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Kholzerino wrote:Shame. Quite hard to find ways to use him other than CCB Zandhrak up the field, sweep, then charge the unit and then zap Vargard and his unit up the table and into the combat and have him challenge whoever is worth is in the opposing combat...
Vargard's Duty only triggers when Zandhrak is assaulted, rather than assaulting himself. It also only allows Obyron himself to insta-teleport into CC, and not his unit too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/09 07:39:03
Subject: Ghostwalk Mantle
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
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While arriving from reserves using DS and teleporting with DS are very different, its the DS rules themselves that forbid charging after deep striking.
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Build a man a fire, he will be warm for a night. Set a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/09 21:29:02
Subject: Ghostwalk Mantle
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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Yeah. Definitely. Went back and looked at the rules.
No idea how to make Vargard Obyron any real use.
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