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Made in gb
Discriminating Deathmark Assassin






Thinking of trying green flames on the wings of my Night Scythes. I've seen one tutorial on making one's one stencil set (one wave and one blob set) for stencilling flames, but just wondering if anyone on here has made one? Any tips on what will and won't work for a material. I'd love it to last long enough to do three flyers...

Any tips/advice gratefully received.
   
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Raleigh, NC

I've seen a tutorial suggesting using the old transparency (school projector) sheets. I've had trouble finding them at office supply stores around me, but I've seen them online.

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Made in gb
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UK - Warwickshire

What your talking about is 'true-flames'?
Like this;

As in a more realistic looking painted fire compared to a cartoony 'hot-rod' stylized flame?
Like this;

(Images shamelessly ripped off google search, may not be the best examples out there,but they illuistrate the point)
Thats what we call them in the custom auto paint industry anyway, There are bought stencils, you can print the shapes and cut them out I suppose, its not easy peasy to pull off, but its not impossible, it takes practise to get used to how to use your stencils to make the effect. You will need transparent, or candy colours,red, orange, yellow (or other for coloured flames?) and unless the base colour is white, some opaque white too.
Also this technique requires an airbrush, preferably a fine detail one.

example stencils;


The general jist of it is to draw a curvy line with the airrbush in opaque white, and then use the funny shaped stencils to find bits of curves that match with your line and beef up the lick of flame that way, all in white, do a few, not too many, and candy over the top all one colour, then put more licks of fire in with white, and candy again, rinse and repeat, stepping up through the colours untill you have your realistic fire.
It takes a long time, works best on flatter open surfaces. Very popular on stuff like motor cycle tanks.

The main issue i can see is the scale, warhammer stuff is small, and this effect is tough to do at a large scale anyways. Never the less, could be done if done well, could be really amazing to see.


For the stencil material, something, I use acetate sheets most of the time, for a more durable one (which is more of a paint to cut out) I use laminating pouches, thick ones.
For a one use stencil paper is good enough, card maybe a few uses, but plastic sheet ones will last the longest.
It also depends what kind of paints you plan to spray at it. Acrylics will hardly eat anything, any alcohol or better will maybe do something... hard to say.

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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin






Thanks for that.

Thus vid seems the best:

http://youtu.be/7Y6TlMIYXWw

   
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I used the blob + wave DIY stencil method and was very happy with the result.



The material I used is 0.4mm thick, rigid sheets of plastic, which I bought at the local art & crafts store. Anything will do really, as long as it is rigid enough to be cut and then sanded for clean edges.

You can see my stencils and step by step pictures of the flames here: http://stephanius40k.blogspot.de/2013/08/heldrake-on-fire.html

   
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin






That's very helpful Stephanius. I've cut some stencils now and am nervously preparing to start on my Night Scythe's wings.

Those are some beautiful looking Helldrakes.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut






You may want to poke about on the various diecast model car websites while trolling around for ideas.



That is a pretty good example of what they are able to accomplish on a small scale. Many of the guys who collect and modify those take their painting to extreme levels. As a result of that market, you can also find several tutorials produced by companies who supply that market like Flame Masks:

http://www.flamemasks.com/zshop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=13
   
 
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