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So this is the army I'm looking towards, I am open to change wargear around but most of the units will remain as is. Unless something MUST be taken out for something else.

This is by no means a competitive list, this is just a list I want to aim towards. If you saw my previous thread then this is just a lot more in depth to load outs now. I did modify the Riptides slightly.

HQ's

Ethereal - 50

Fireblade - 60

Troops

Fire Warriors - 12, Bonding Knife Ritual - 120

Fire Warriors - 12, Bonding Knife Ritual - 120

Fire Warriors - 12, Bonding Knife Ritual - 120

Fire Warriors - 12, Bonding Knife Ritual - 120

Fire Warriors - 12, Bonding Knife Ritual - 120

Fire Warriors - 12, Bonding Knife Ritual - 120

Elites

Riptide - Ion Accelerator, Velocity Tracker, Early Warning Override - 205

Riptide - Heavy Burst Cannon, Velocity Tracker, Stimulant Injector - 235

Fast Attack

Pathfinders - 5, Bonding Knife Ritual - 60

Pathfinders - 5, Bonding Knife Ritual - 60

Pathfinders - 5, Bonding Knife Ritual - 60

Heavy Support

Hammerhead - Submunition Rounds, Twin-Linked Smart missile system, Disruption Pod, Longstrike - 190

Hammerhead - Submunition Rounds, Twin-Linked Smart missile system, Disruption Pod - 145

Skyray - Twin-Linked Smart Missile System, Disruption Pod - 130

Fortification

Aegis Defense Line - Icarus Lascannon - 85

Total of 2000 (if my maths is correct lol).

The thing I have most concerns with are the Riptides, I'v saw roughly 3 different load outs. One with Velocity Tracker, One with Early Warning Override and One with both.

Surely a Riptide doesn't need both as it can choose to have Skyfire or not if it has a velocity tracker making the Early warning Override a bit obsolete as I don't get too many deep striking units to use interceptor on.

But yea as I said will look to change wargear only, unless something must be changed.

Anyway any tips/ideas are welcome!

Thanks for looking!

The bonding knife ritual only comes into effect if you're unit is running away and is under 25%. For your pathfinders that means when each squad is down to one model, and 2 for your Fire warriors. You have over 100 points invested in it, I recommend dropping it in favor of something else.

In my opinion, Stimulant Injector is unnecessary if you have more than one model. You could drop that for another 35 points.

I would recommend making one of those Railheads an Ion head for some AP large blast goodness.

As for my last suggestion, you have LOTS of medium str/medium AP value, but not enough AP 2 or lower. I would recommend making that second Riptide another Iontide. This would make battles against Termies less painful.

Other than that, 228 shots at 15" would be fun to watch...

Oh, but the things that'll hurt you the most will be flamers, cover ignoring barrage/blast weapons and other shooty armies. A Tau player on the other side would make quick work of this list.

If you want to make changes remember that when you have a game 2000+ pts it double the limit in each category.

Sorry if it's something you already knew, but I know a lot of guys who forget this

DirtyDeeds wrote:The bonding knife ritual only comes into effect if you're unit is running away and is under 25%. For your pathfinders that means when each squad is down to one model, and 2 for your Fire warriors. You have over 100 points invested in it, I recommend dropping it in favor of something else.

In my opinion, Stimulant Injector is unnecessary if you have more than one model. You could drop that for another 35 points.

I would recommend making one of those Railheads an Ion head for some AP large blast goodness.

As for my last suggestion, you have LOTS of medium str/medium AP value, but not enough AP 2 or lower. I would recommend making that second Riptide another Iontide. This would make battles against Termies less painful.

Other than that, 228 shots at 15" would be fun to watch...

Oh, but the things that'll hurt you the most will be flamers, cover ignoring barrage/blast weapons and other shooty armies. A Tau player on the other side would make quick work of this list.

Thanks for the tips. Ill take them into consideration when I rewrite this list a bit. Though what I'm going to do with the extra points I'm unsure of yet XD

thetallestgiraffe wrote:If you want to make changes remember that when you have a game 2000+ pts it double the limit in each category.

Sorry if it's something you already knew, but I know a lot of guys who forget this

Yea I did know this, but thanks for mentioning it just incase. I was looking to try fit the list into one organisation chart but its most likely I will need to go over into the second lol.

New List, pretty much same as old one just tweaked. Have 117 points left, have no idea what to spend them on. Any ideas??

HQ's

Ethereal - 50

Fireblade - 60

Troops

Fire Warriors - 12 - 108

Fire Warriors - 12 - 108

Fire Warriors - 12 - 108

Fire Warriors - 12 - 108

Fire Warriors - 12 - 108

Fire Warriors - 12 - 108

Elites

Riptide - Ion Accelerator, Velocity Tracker, Early Warning Override - 205

Riptide - Ion Accelerator, Velocity Tracker, Early Warning Override - 205

Fast Attack

Pathfinders - 5 - 55

Pathfinders - 5 - 55

Pathfinders - 5 - 55

Heavy Support

Hammerhead - Submunition Rounds, Twin-Linked Smart missile system, Disruption Pod, Longstrike - 190

Hammerhead - Submunition Rounds, Twin-Linked Smart missile system, Disruption Pod - 145

Skyray - Twin-Linked Smart Missile System, Disruption Pod - 130

Fortification

Aegis Defense Line - Icarus Lascannon - 85

Total 1883, so 117 points left.

How about a suicide crisis team?

2 crisis shas'ui, 2x fusion blasters or plasma rifles on each suit and a target lock on one of them. 109 points

Yea that would work, would give me reason to use the suits that iv painted up.