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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/05 23:14:33
Subject: Thypus zombie army !! ( also pre heresy death guard)
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Pre heresy death guard (
traitor)
I want it to be fluffy but semi competitive. Btw this was after one read of the codex :p
Thypon (thypus)
Demon prince ( Decius)
Wings power armour mark of nurgle, black mace
Terminators
5x lightning claws, mark of nurgle,
Aspiring champion, mutations, melts bombs
Troops
Plague marines ( aspiring champ is grulgor)
7 marines, 2 melta, melta bombs
Rhino
3 x 20 zombies
Heavy support
Vindicator
Devastators
10 men, mark of nurgle, 4 metla's melta bombs
Rhino
Comes out at 1485
I might drop the demon prince for more zombies and another plague marine squad ??
All cc welcome
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/06 02:43:39
Subject: Re:Thypus zombie army !! ( also pre heresy death guard)
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Reverent Tech-Adept
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I really love good nurgle armies like this. but there are problems.
Daemon Prince- definitely keep him. This guy can be very effective, wiping out scoring squads, or at the very least tying up dedicated assault units.
Terminators- although LC are cool and fun, they really aren't effective, since you have no way of getting there other than deepstriking. I would suggest combi-weapons, or if you want to keep them, a landraider to get across the table. I also think that MoN is wasted on them, they are already pretty survivable, and any weapons that people turn against them wont care (such as plasma). Also, the terminator champion can't take melta bombs.
Plague Marines- they rock, you need more of them. Personally I use 5 man squads to maximize melta/plasma per point. (I also would Highly suggest plasma on them).
Zombies- they are great objective holders, but keep in mind that because of their limited mobility and lack of offensive punch, don't plan on them moving very far at all during the game. Although relatively cheap, too many squads will hurt you in games where there aren't any/many objectives.
Havocs- although it is an easy way to get 4 meltas in a Rhino, I like them to either have 1. long range support which your army is desperately lacking, or 2. use the points for more Plague marine squads.
Vindicator- unless lucky, i have found vindicators to be highly ineffective. either add another, or drop it for obliterators or more Havocs. the S10 template is great, but the very short range is a huge deal.
Although its just my own opinion, Heres a list thats pretty fluffy, and something i have found pretty decent.
Typhus
DP-same loadout
Plague Marines- x5, x2 plasma, rhino, dozerblade
Plague Marines- x5, x2 plasma, rhino, dozerblade
Plague Marines- x5, x2 plasma, rhino, dozerblade
Zombies-x15
Zombies-x15
Zombies-x15
Havocs- x5, x3 autocannons, x1 lascannon
Havocs- x5, x3 autocannons, x1 lascannon
-1525pts
Although it is a bit spammy, i still think it is fluffy and fun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/06 07:20:01
Subject: Re:Thypus zombie army !! ( also pre heresy death guard)
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
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Take 3 heldrakes! Just kidding I think taking 4 close range weapons on havocs is a fine activity, you just need a better way to get them in range than rhinos. Land raider is too expensive, CSM forgot how to use drop pods when the turned evil, so whats that leave us with? The master of deception warlord trait. Take huron or Ahriman if you want to load them out this way and maximize it. Otherwise, if you want vehicle hunters, id suggest a termicide squad with combi-meltas and maybe a chainfist or 2 or 3 biker squads with meltas and a combi-melta on the champeroonie Other than that, I toose chickenbgood
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"We are the Red Sorcerers of Prospero, damned in the eyes of our fellows, and this is to be how our story ends, in betrayal and bloodshed. No...you may find it nobler to suffer your fate, but I will take arms against it." -Ahzek Ahriman
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/06 08:42:12
Subject: Thypus zombie army !! ( also pre heresy death guard)
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Okay thanks for the comments guys I am new to chaos lol
Firstly it's a themed pre heresy death guard army they very rarely used transports if at all but I couldn't have everything foot slogging
I did think of giving the termies combi metla's and what cc weapon would you recommend because I will be using the forge world death guard ones with the man reapers ??
I will swap melta for plasma on the plague marines.
I have always been pretty lucky with my vindicators I normally run them in pairs but with that demon prince sitting at almost 300pts I can't afford one
I think the havocs are alright I did want mm but chaos don't have them lol but everything else will be rushing forward (except zombies they will shuffle Shaun of the dead style) to beat face I don't really want them to be holding the home field because they will just get shot to death by eldar, tau
I was thinking of dropping the prince in favour of more plague marines and zombies but I've seen a prince like that wreck face on multiple occasions
And nooooooo it has to be thypon
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/06 20:22:41
Subject: Thypus zombie army !! ( also pre heresy death guard)
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Run @chikenbgood's list. It's fluffy (rhinos aren't a sin) and will fair ok against most seeing as you don't have many flyers in your meta
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/06 20:31:20
Subject: Thypus zombie army !! ( also pre heresy death guard)
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Okay then cheers I think I will start the chaos one first it seems to be the most fun and would be something a little bit different from what I am used to ( ultramarines and tau )
Also which mark armour should I be getting I was looking at mk3 ??
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/06 20:32:57
Subject: Thypus zombie army !! ( also pre heresy death guard)
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Hungry Ork Hunta Lying in Wait
New York
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IMHO i wouldnt run so many zombies. Especially with everyone running Waveserpeant spam and Riptide/broad side spam. A hole lot of str 6 refusing your FNP saves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/06 20:43:19
Subject: Thypus zombie army !! ( also pre heresy death guard)
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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But a squad of zombies is so cheap there's not really a lot I can replace it with tbh
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/06 20:43:59
Subject: Thypus zombie army !! ( also pre heresy death guard)
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Mk 2,3 and 4 are all viable. For DG, I'd be going Mk3
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/06 21:05:26
Subject: Thypus zombie army !! ( also pre heresy death guard)
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Okay that's good then because I think mk3 is the best looking one
Would they mix armour types in the squads or one squad be mk3 and another mk4 etc ??
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/06 21:12:50
Subject: Thypus zombie army !! ( also pre heresy death guard)
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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brother marcus wrote:Okay that's good then because I think mk3 is the best looking one
Would they mix armour types in the squads or one squad be mk3 and another mk4 etc ??
I should think that would be ok. I'd refrain from mixing Mks on the one model though as I don't think they did that until much later. For your DG I stick w mostly Mk3 and then Mk4 for the command squad and Garro Automatically Appended Next Post: Note: that was for the loyalists. For your traitor list I'd be using GW plague marines so not really room for Mk choice. You could gs FW models but I think the Plague Marine models would look better and their armour fits the theme anyway
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/06 21:23:51
Subject: Thypus zombie army !! ( also pre heresy death guard)
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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I was going use the tactical squads (sm) and the forge world plague marines bodies for the plague marines but use normal armour for everyone else as if they have literally only just turned and not had chance yet to become nurgleyfied lol
I was also going mix the magic zombie kit with guardsmen
Were there guardsmen during the defence of the emperor ??
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/06 21:30:30
Subject: Thypus zombie army !! ( also pre heresy death guard)
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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brother marcus wrote:I was going use the tactical squads (sm) and the forge world plague marines bodies for the plague marines but use normal armour for everyone else as if they have literally only just turned and not had chance yet to become nurgleyfied lol
I was also going mix the magic zombie kit with guardsmen
Were there guardsmen during the defence of the emperor ??
Your plan for buying armour sounds good and yes there were IG, they were just called the Imperial Army. Remember those guys? Commander Hektor Varvarus who got killed by SoH friendly fire?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/06 21:37:22
Subject: Thypus zombie army !! ( also pre heresy death guard)
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Vaguely remember do you know what their colours were ??Anyway the zombies are going to be mixed with guard and painted in those colours as if thypon has just been blessed and already started spreading the gift of nurgle
Oh dear they look like vostroyians would using normal guard still work ??
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/06 21:48:47
Subject: Thypus zombie army !! ( also pre heresy death guard)
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Yeah most IA regiments wore uniforms similar to the Vostrayans and Valhallans...
The colors depend on the regiment and I'm not sure which regiment was assigned to the death guard. I'll have a look
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/06 21:56:03
Subject: Thypus zombie army !! ( also pre heresy death guard)
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Okay thank you very much !!  I am very appreciative of you help
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/06 21:58:40
Subject: Thypus zombie army !! ( also pre heresy death guard)
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Okay. So the DG weren't actually an Expedition Fleet and as a result didn't have an attached IA contingents...
I would recommend civilians or make up a PDF force or something like that. That'd allow you to use "regular" guardsmen models too with a bit more freedom
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/06 22:19:24
Subject: Thypus zombie army !! ( also pre heresy death guard)
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Okay I could use Cadians and say some bad warp stuff went down and thypon ended up with loads of z Automatically Appended Next Post: Okay I could use Cadians and say some bad warp stuff went down and thypon ended up with loads of zombies :p
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