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Hey
I'm wondering if I should start playing the tabletop game again. I love the heresy books and have find memories of playing my tau when I was younger. I just don't like the price and I don't want people to think different of me because I play the tabletop
Thoughs?

The price is always going to be a sticking point with GW games.... unless you scour ebay for what you want and abuse the discounts many online stores will give you

If you're worried about what other people will think of you for doing what you want to do, there is no help I can give you.

*shrugs* If you like the idea of assembling and painting models and love 40k I don't see why not. If you don't like the price you can search for bargains on eBay or trades (like in dakkadakka) or use online stores that usually offer a nice discount. There's a lot of possibilities if you want bargains.

About the 2nd question: really? Are your friends going to refuse to hang-out with you because you are the nerd guy that likes to play with toys? If they are, sorry bud, they aren't your friends :p
Can't really help there.

I recently decided to get back into the game (or at least look into it again) after some 12 years away. However, the game has changed and IMO for the worse since GW doesn't care about balance just selling the latest shiny.

So my advice is get back into it if you play with people that prefer fluffy/narrative games to cutthroat WAAC competitive gaming, or if you don't care about the game and like the models.

WayneTheGame wrote:
I recently decided to get back into the game (or at least look into it again) after some 12 years away. However, the game has changed and IMO for the worse since GW doesn't care about balance just selling the latest shiny.

So my advice is get back into it if you play with people that prefer fluffy/narrative games to cutthroat WAAC competitive gaming, or if you don't care about the game and like the models.

40k has never been a balanced game i started in the begining of third edd and there's allways been broken stuff. then again i find 40k to be the perfect Beer and pretzels(insert other snacks here) game.
Find people who agree to not only use netlists and just play to win they aint fun to play at all.
Afterall Gamesworkshop look at them self as a Model company rather than a tabletop game company.

I recently fired up the Waaaagh! again, I've been playing on and off since...god, '92? Somewhere in there.

Price will always be a sticking point. GW has never been cost effective, though their models are better than they ever have been now. I've bought a box here and there of some of the "cheaper" alternatives out there to try them out, but in the end, me and my buddies play 40k, though painting is about 60% of what I do, so I am skewed that direction.


As for what other people think of you.....Well now I assume you are trolling. True nerds care little for what other people think.

Why did you stop playing in the first place? What are you looking for that you think that tabletop play will fulfill?

And 40k is only expensive if you want it to be. Also, do some serious shopping around for other hobbies that give you as many hours of stuff to do for their price and 40k will look like a bargain. Unless your only hobbies include sweeping and praying, you're going to have to shell out cash to have fun.

No

DON'T DO IT!! If you do you will notice how much lighter your wallet weighs.... Jkjk (sort of)
As long as you understand the costs and the time it takes to paint and play then I say go for it. Oh and for your second question who cares what people think, and if you do just don't tell people (if you saw me on the street you would never guess if I play table top games, so just don't get all greasy and not shower or dress nerdy and people would be none the wiser lol)

ya you guys are right, i shouldnt care what other people think. I also really like painting the miniatures and the game if i remember correctly is really fun. Its also by far my favourite universe so i think i should. FORGE WORLD PRE HERESY ULTRAMARINES HERE I COME!

If you want to, then do it. If you don't, then don't.
Me, I love the game even with its faults.

Remus Ventanus wrote:
Hey
I'm wondering if I should start playing the tabletop game again. I love the heresy books and have find memories of playing my tau when I was younger. I just don't like the price and I don't want people to think different of me because I play the tabletop
Thoughs?

Yes. However I think you should play orkz.

We need you, come krump with us.

 Rismonite wrote:

Remus Ventanus wrote:
Hey
I'm wondering if I should start playing the tabletop game again. I love the heresy books and have find memories of playing my tau when I was younger. I just don't like the price and I don't want people to think different of me because I play the tabletop
Thoughs?

Yes. However I think you should play orkz.

We need you, come krump with us.

Orks are the menace of the galaxy!! But I'm a space marine player. Maybe I'll get a few tau for nastslgia

I'd say no there are cheaper and frankly more fun games out there, take a look at fantasy flights x-wing game you can have everything you need for way under £100 unlike 40k which will cost you an easy £400+ for a starter 1000 point army.

hobojebus wrote: everything you need for way under £100 unlike 40k which will cost you an easy £400+ for a starter 1000 point army.

What? Is it even possible to make a 1000 point army that expensive? I guess if you're using only metal or finecast...

Given that it's possible to make a 1000 point army for $50 if you start deathwing, and that that "soars" up to ~120 when you include the DV rulebook and a second-hand copy of the DA codex, and it's still plenty possible to make a starter army for fewer than £100.

Of course, cost isn't the only concern. Spend a bit of time sifting through gravel, and you can get yourself set up with a Go set for absolutely free. Likewise, it's not that difficult to get a chess board set up. It turns out, though, that startup cost isn't the only thing to consider.

Remus Ventanus wrote:
Hey
I'm wondering if I should start playing the tabletop game again. I love the heresy books and have find memories of playing my tau when I was younger. I just don't like the price and I don't want people to think different of me because I play the tabletop
Thoughs?

My take:

If you are just playing with close friends go for it. Otherwise, i would say (as much as it hurts...) don't bother, the models and background still kick the stuffing out of the competition, but the current 'meta' as i find it is developing into a situation where i'm beginning to find it "slowed". Not to mention the rules can make things depressingly predictable to the point where you have lost before you even start.

And this the issue i'm now having, warmahordes may not be perfect but at least you have zero issues with the basic rules, and just have to work out how to dodge the filthy combos meanwhile delivering your own which is an absolute joy to play.


Just my opinion.

Remus Ventanus wrote:
Hey
I'm wondering if I should start playing the tabletop game again. I love the heresy books and have find memories of playing my tau when I was younger. I just don't like the price and I don't want people to think different of me because I play the tabletop
Thoughs?

Up to you dude.

Why would they think differently of you because you play tabletop? They might be a bit puzzled to begin with, or you might be surprised and they might want to join in. If they are any sort of friend then they would just take it in their stride and let you do something you enjoy. It might be a source of amusement but taking the piss out of each other is what having friends is about I have little toy soldiers whereas my mate has a little soldier.

None of my regular friends play any TT and the the people I do play against are friends I have made on places like DD who wouldn't be my friends if it wasn't for my geeky hobby.

The prices are a bummer but scour ebay or car boot sales and you can pick up some steals.

 Ailaros wrote:

hobojebus wrote: everything you need for way under £100 unlike 40k which will cost you an easy £400+ for a starter 1000 point army.

What? Is it even possible to make a 1000 point army that expensive? I guess if you're using only metal or finecast...

Add in paints, tools and gaming gear (dice, tape measure, etc), and the costs add up.
Only around half of the money I've spent on 40k is on the models themselves.

 Skinnereal wrote:

 Ailaros wrote:

hobojebus wrote: everything you need for way under £100 unlike 40k which will cost you an easy £400+ for a starter 1000 point army.

What? Is it even possible to make a 1000 point army that expensive? I guess if you're using only metal or finecast...

Add in paints, tools and gaming gear (dice, tape measure, etc), and the costs add up.
Only around half of the money I've spent on 40k is on the models themselves.

must be buying expensive dice and tape measures...

Half? What?

4 colors, a wash, a brush and a can of spraypaint aren't going to cost £200+

More like $30

I'd honestly make sure you will have friendly players to play against in your area before investing in the game.

If you already have friends to play with, great. If not, check out the local gaming store and see if there are people that frequent the establishment that you could see yourself playing with regularly.

Thanks all for the replies.

 Dalymiddleboro wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:

 Ailaros wrote:

hobojebus wrote: everything you need for way under £100 unlike 40k which will cost you an easy £400+ for a starter 1000 point army.

What? Is it even possible to make a 1000 point army that expensive? I guess if you're using only metal or finecast...

Add in paints, tools and gaming gear (dice, tape measure, etc), and the costs add up.
Only around half of the money I've spent on 40k is on the models themselves.

must be buying expensive dice and tape measures...

Doing this off the top of my head but let's do space marines:

Rulebook £50
Codex £30
1st HQ 18
2nd HQ 18
2xTroops £50
Devestators £25
Tank £30
Rhino £30
Spraycan £10
Paints £10
Brushes £10
Plastic glue and super glue £8-10

So maybe it's more like £300 if you pay retail but that's still a huge start up cost compared to alot of other games, I started back in 96 when prices were more reasonable I would not start today I'd buy a ps4 instead or a laptop something you'll use way more often for more functions.

 Dalymiddleboro wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:

 Ailaros wrote:

hobojebus wrote: everything you need for way under £100 unlike 40k which will cost you an easy £400+ for a starter 1000 point army.

What? Is it even possible to make a 1000 point army that expensive? I guess if you're using only metal or finecast...

Add in paints, tools and gaming gear (dice, tape measure, etc), and the costs add up.
Only around half of the money I've spent on 40k is on the models themselves.

must be buying expensive dice and tape measures...

Other stuff,
MDF boards and lots of flock for a table,
Airbrushes and compressor,
For the cases, a Vendetta foam tray with room for 20 infantry could cost £22 plus box.

So, the cost of gaming could be far higher than just the models.

It depends on how much you want to put into it, stuff like what you mention I would say is for the more dedicated gamer, not a casual one. Bits like that would be required later if the OP ever got back into fully, not for just starting out again and he might still have his Tau army.

I got back into it in '09 and wouldn't dream about spending loads of cash on MDF boards or Airbrushes. It's my hobby, not a life style choice

Let's go through your considerations:

1. Price: Ebay will reduce costs buy 50% or better. Usually, you can grab a whole army for like 30% retail value, so while still not cheap, it ain't exactly unpayable.This does not work with Heresy stuff, as forge-world is hellish expensive, even on ebay, so it will still be 40k, not 40k, unless you have no problem with using the wrong power armour patterns.

2. People thinking different: Dude, you want to play with tabletop plastic soldiers. Just accept it, you are a nerd. Be proud, be geeky, be yourself.

hobojebus wrote:

 Dalymiddleboro wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:

 Ailaros wrote:

hobojebus wrote: everything you need for way under £100 unlike 40k which will cost you an easy £400+ for a starter 1000 point army.

What? Is it even possible to make a 1000 point army that expensive? I guess if you're using only metal or finecast...

Add in paints, tools and gaming gear (dice, tape measure, etc), and the costs add up.
Only around half of the money I've spent on 40k is on the models themselves.

must be buying expensive dice and tape measures...

Doing this off the top of my head but let's do space marines:

Rulebook £50
Codex £30
1st HQ 18
2nd HQ 18
2xTroops £50
Devestators £25
Tank £30
Rhino £30
Spraycan £10
Paints £10
Brushes £10
Plastic glue and super glue £8-10

So maybe it's more like £300 if you pay retail but that's still a huge start up cost compared to alot of other games, I started back in 96 when prices were more reasonable I would not start today I'd buy a ps4 instead or a laptop something you'll use way more often for more functions.

I'd say most people would spend far more on paints than 10 pounds. That's, what, 5 paints? I suppose that's enough, black, white, red, yellow, blue, however I highly doubt anyone is going to be mixing EVERY single colour on their models.

One of my mates recently got back in to the hobby and spent about $100AUD on paints alone, another $30 on brushes and brush cleaners and also bought a couple of cases to carry models (hard to play a game when you can't transport your models!). The past year, the majority of my hobby money has gone in to an airbrush/compressor and probably spent another $200 on paints, cleaners, thinners, glues, etc.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

hobojebus wrote:

 Dalymiddleboro wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:

 Ailaros wrote:

hobojebus wrote: everything you need for way under £100 unlike 40k which will cost you an easy £400+ for a starter 1000 point army.

What? Is it even possible to make a 1000 point army that expensive? I guess if you're using only metal or finecast...

Add in paints, tools and gaming gear (dice, tape measure, etc), and the costs add up.
Only around half of the money I've spent on 40k is on the models themselves.

must be buying expensive dice and tape measures...

Doing this off the top of my head but let's do space marines:

Rulebook £50
Codex £30
1st HQ 18
2nd HQ 18
2xTroops £50
Devestators £25
Tank £30
Rhino £30
Spraycan £10
Paints £10
Brushes £10
Plastic glue and super glue £8-10

So maybe it's more like £300 if you pay retail but that's still a huge start up cost compared to alot of other games, I started back in 96 when prices were more reasonable I would not start today I'd buy a ps4 instead or a laptop something you'll use way more often for more functions.

I'd say most people would spend far more on paints than 10 pounds. That's, what, 5 paints? I suppose that's enough, black, white, red, yellow, blue, however I highly doubt anyone is going to be mixing EVERY single colour on their models.

One of my mates recently got back in to the hobby and spent about $100AUD on paints alone, another $30 on brushes and brush cleaners and also bought a couple of cases to carry models (hard to play a game when you can't transport your models!). The past year, the majority of my hobby money has gone in to an airbrush/compressor and probably spent another $200 on paints, cleaners, thinners, glues, etc.

Most new players don't tend to use washes and highlights, basic paint jobs are the norm for the new player which is what we are talking about, I agree a more experienced player will buy many more paints but you can't expect a first time painter to do heavy metal quality models.

Certainly when I was 16 my paint jobs were much more basic affairs.