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Hello everyone! I was think of coming back to the hobby but have some confusion regarding the markerlight rules.

Firstly: say you have some markerlight tokens on a unit and then fire a squad at that unit, expending the tokens; you then go further and use target locks to split fire some models at different targets. Would the split firing models still get the effects of the markerlight tokens expended? The codex says that the unit firing at the marked unit gets +1 BS or ignores cover and the split firing models are still part of that unit.

Secondly: how do the rules for markerlights work with blast templates? If you fire a blast weapon at a unit with markerlight counters on it, then expend the counters on stripping cover, do you remove the cover saves of other units that are 'inadvertently' hit? I think this would be a yes, but I would like to be sure.

Thirdly: say you fire a unit of piranha at a marked target. Do embarked drones get the benefit of markerlight tokens expended by the piranha?

As an aside I would like to ask two unrelated questions.

Can a blast weapon scatter onto a flier?

What are the usual restrictions on using ForgeWorld models?

Thank you very much for taking the time to answer these questions!!

Short answers tonight:
1) No Bonus to Ballistic Score - Pinpoint begins by stating 'All Models firing,' meaning it doesn't matter what the Unit as a whole is doing but what each individual Model evoking the Marklight's Pinpoint Ability is doing.
2) They would Ignore Cover - The Special Rule is granted to the Weapon fired at the Target, and doesn't remove it should that weapon Scatter
3) Yes - This is explained in the Drone section of the book, Attached Drones
4) Never - Hard to Hit Restrictions that Fliers have make them immune to Blast Markers while Zooming
5) Opponent should be notified ahead of time - Curtsy if nothing else.

actually, the rules for blast weapons and fliers have changed some. It depends on the mode.

The rules for drones embarked on tanks are stated clearly. They fire as part of the tank, with all the limitations and restrictions and benefits that apply. Including snap fire for speed, or number of weapons fired.

Thank you very much for the answers!

The other unit the blast scatters into, would not be negatively impacted by marker lights aimed and used on another unit.

The marker lights remove cover from the unit not grants ignores cover to the weapons.

Just think of MARKER LIGHTS just like the name sounds. A pathfinder squad masks a unit for being shot at, you shoot at them with the ability to ignore their cover since another unit is lighting them up with laser pointers

Lungpickle wrote:
The other unit the blast scatters into, would not be negatively impacted by marker lights aimed and used on another unit.

The marker lights remove cover from the unit not grants ignores cover to the weapons.

Just think of MARKER LIGHTS just like the name sounds. A pathfinder squad masks a unit for being shot at, you shoot at them with the ability to ignore their cover since another unit is lighting them up with laser pointers

Not true. Markerlights grant the firing unit Ignore Cover if spent for that.

 H3ct0r wrote:
Hello everyone! I was think of coming back to the hobby but have some confusion regarding the markerlight rules.

Firstly: say you have some markerlight tokens on a unit and then fire a squad at that unit, expending the tokens; you then go further and use target locks to split fire some models at different targets. Would the split firing models still get the effects of the markerlight tokens expended? The codex says that the unit firing at the marked unit gets +1 BS or ignores cover and the split firing models are still part of that unit.

Secondly: how do the rules for markerlights work with blast templates? If you fire a blast weapon at a unit with markerlight counters on it, then expend the counters on stripping cover, do you remove the cover saves of other units that are 'inadvertently' hit? I think this would be a yes, but I would like to be sure.

Thirdly: say you fire a unit of piranha at a marked target. Do embarked drones get the benefit of markerlight tokens expended by the piranha?

As an aside I would like to ask two unrelated questions.

Can a blast weapon scatter onto a flier?

What are the usual restrictions on using ForgeWorld models?

Thank you very much for taking the time to answer these questions!!

1. I'd say no, because the split-firing model isn't targeting the same enemy his unit is.
2. The Blast rules specify that you need to target a model - so its unit is the intended target. I believe the MLs spend for this would strip cover only from the unit where the model targeted by the blast is. It gives Ignores Cover to the weapons fired against the target, not total Ignores Cover. But I can be wrong here.
3. Explained in the Drone rules.
4. No. Have in mind that 'Nova' Psychic Powers hit everything.
5. There isn't any. You should tell your opponent what you're using, just like any other codex. If you're asked about the rules of a particular model, show them.

Lungpickle,
Incorrect, the Marker-light Rules specifically states that the Weapons gain the Ignore Cover Special Rule.

Says a little more than that. All firing at this TARGET. Though I was remembering wrong you don't get ignores cover from a blast using marker lights to ignore cover on a unit it scatters on to just the original target.

JinxDragon wrote:
Lungpickle,
Incorrect, the Marker-light Rules specifically states that the Weapons gain the Ignore Cover Special Rule.

Yep, but against the target unit. You target a model with the blast; so its unit is the target. Every other model under the blast that isn't part of the targeted model's unit isn't the "target" per se, but targets of convenience. I'd say they can take cover saves as normal.
If your blast scatters, the models under it that aren't part of the targeted model's unit get a cover save as well (you didn't spend markerlights shot on them)

Vector Strike,
The simple act of scattering off the target does not change which Unit was Targeted for the Attack, nor does it prevent the weapon from having been 'fired' at that target unlike Target Lock's and it's kin. As the condition within the Markerlight Special Rule states that any Weapon fired at the Targeted Unit gains the Ignore Cover Special Rule, which means the Blast Maker utilizing Weapon in question has meet these requirements. From the point it was Fired forward it gains the Ignore Cover Special Rule against whomever the Shot actually manages to Hit. As the Weapon in question has been granted permission to use the Ignore Special Rule, it would require a Specific Restriction that addresses what occurs should said Weapon then Scatters off target.

As the Rule does not state that the Ignore Cover Special Rule is lost due to Scatter, it is not lost due to scatter.

Lungpickle wrote:
Says a little more than that. All firing at this TARGET. Though I was remembering wrong you don't get ignores cover from a blast using marker lights to ignore cover on a unit it scatters on to just the original target.

Yes you do, as the rules very clearly state that the weapons gain the Ignores Cover special rule, not Ignores Cover (against the original target)