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Don't really like Slaanesh; I much rather prefer Khorne and Nurgle.

Slaanesh is hated soo much

Voted for slannesh. Put some clothes on you androgynous thing, this is supposed to be a battlefield not an erotic showroom.

Tzeentch was a close second. He's just a pain in the a** always claiming every action is a part of his intricate web of inevitability or whatever.

Emperor purge them all!

Everything is going according to plan!

prototype_X wrote:SLAANESH i mean

slaaneshi deamonets

noise marines

nipple rings

penis god

need i say more?

yeah but its so tonned down and censored that it seems extremely stupid
how they try and get around it, sounds laughably awful
as I said, they tried for one thing, but didn't want to go that way because... I guess this game appeals to kids (billions horribly slaughtered and skulls EVERYWHERE, is fine, but nude breasts?! HERESY!)
I don't think I could post half of my Slaanesh conversions

NURGLE
It's simple, all the best Nurgle conversions make you wow and barf at the same time.

And now, a Champion of Tzeentch.



I am thinking people are reading too much into the whole Slannesh = BDSM god and all that, Slannesh as it was stated is about excesses, and most of all secrets, the bigger the secret the better it is. If Slannesh was all about BDSM, why would the the deamon not be called a keeper of whips and chains.

Just because the whole Khornate "Blood for the Blood God" deal exists that does nto mean that is his primary motivation, bieng a follower of Khorne is not all about blood and skulls, it is about martial prowess, not every follower of Khorne is a World Eaters Berzerker.

Tzeentch, yes change, but then again the whole part of the Great Game for Tzeentch is to scheme and twist others to his will, to bend fate to his ideals, in the end all Tzeentch wants is to say after his plot is completed, whether successful or not is to say "just as planned", hence the A-Team reference at the beginning of my post.

Last but not least, Nurgle, embodies balance more than anything else I see, for where he causes death, new life comes, if Nurgle was able to destry every living creature he would render himself nonexistent, because one force cannot exist without another.

So I am unable to vote for any of them.

Slaanesh... I can't stand it.

Where's my 'Neither I worship them all' option?



Nurgle: Fat, full of LOL's & an essential part of all life - disease and death. Nurgle's followers are tougher becuase they are a physical embodiement of contagion - they no longer feel the pain & laugh off any attempt to harm their bloated bodies. How can you hate Nurgle when he brings us such delights as blue cheese & innoculation? He's Chaos's answer to Buddha, that's why I love him.

Khorne: Simple, direct violence. Humans excel at it & I am sure any advanced alien race will have to as well. There's always something appealing about blood-crazed periods of history, from despotic madmenwomen to events like The Terror. People are less likely to remember/care/know a story about a Vegan Lamb Cult of Life & Rice Crispy Cakes of Peace, as they would a Cult of Blood that sacrificed an entire village. He also has the martial prowress thing, which is cool.

Tzeentch: How can anyone hate this guy? Change, evolution, knowledge, orchestrating the entire universe for some unimaginable purpose - how can you dislike that unless you are an illiterate, creationist with no interest in fate, time and the construction of humanity/the universe?

Slaanesh: I understand all the reasons given for disliking him (pink), however he/she/it is very fascinating also. The view that it's just about sex/orgies is simplistic. It is about the worship of the senses over that of reason and spirit. Slaanesh is also about Hedonism, that only pleasure is good. It's about finding pleasure in art, food, music etc taken to an extreme. If you enjoy the sound of live classical music or admire a particular piece of architecture, for instance, that's a very minor part of Slaanesh. Self worth/self love is also a factor. The idea that one surrenders to the senses and wishes to explore new, direct avenues of sensation has led to many key points in history & the decadence/corruption & eventual downfall of many people, even civilisations. Some of our best stories are about this - Dorien Grey etc. Slaanesh offers the choice of visceral sensation over any spiritual sense of worth - he/she/it is, as such, a God of materialistic pleasure/materialism as much as anything else. Slaanesh is what all humans do well (create/love/enjoy) taken to its most extreme so that spirituality is forgotten/becomes irrelevant t the point of corrupting the soul (should you believe in such terms).

The Chaos Gods are a hugely important part of the Warhammer universe and are, IMO, the most clever element of Warhammer's mythology for they share so much with human history/affairs & our struggle with existance itself. Humanity strives for/against everything the Chaos Gods represent - that's why I love them all.

Khorne... just plain boring.

None, actually, but if I have to chose the one I like least it's definitely Khorne. I don't buy into the whole blood and gore part of Chaos, it doesn't ring with that semi-subtle tone that the rest of Chaos does.

Wait a bit!?! The Emperor's not on the list?

warspawned wrote:
Slaanesh: I understand all the reasons given for disliking him (pink), however he/she/it is very fascinating also. The view that it's just about sex/orgies is simplistic. It is about the worship of the senses over that of reason and spirit. Slaanesh is also about Hedonism, that only pleasure is good. It's about finding pleasure in art, food, music etc taken to an extreme. If you enjoy the sound of live classical music or admire a particular piece of architecture, for instance, that's a very minor part of Slaanesh. Self worth/self love is also a factor. The idea that one surrenders to the senses and wishes to explore new, direct avenues of sensation has led to many key points in history & the decadence/corruption & eventual downfall of many people, even civilisations. Some of our best stories are about this - Dorien Grey etc. Slaanesh offers the choice of visceral sensation over any spiritual sense of worth - he/she/it is, as such, a God of materialistic pleasure/materialism as much as anything else. Slaanesh is what all humans do well (create/love/enjoy) taken to its most extreme so that spirituality is forgotten/becomes irrelevant t the point of corrupting the soul (should you believe in such terms).

The reason I voted Slaanesh has nothing to do with the Sexual side (and that speaks of peoples idea of excess and hedonism equalling sex) it is to do with the fact that people taking pride, and living in excess is a sure way to destroy ones self. Slaanesh is about intoxication, pure emotion and extreme sensation. And as another use said, Secrets. The bigger, the more humiliating etc the better. That is the reason to hate Slaanesh. The sexual side is tiny. He is about Pleasure and Secrets and Passion. Sex is a base pleasure after all, but pleasure comes from Artistic and other pursuits (read Fulgrim as it shows the debasement of the entire legion as they fall into worship of Slaanesh, and the remembermancers too!)

Oh and he is the Dark Price, there is a theory about the fact he is portrayed as a hermaphrodite, that he can assume the form of what means the most to another, their darkest fantasy and secret, their fears and dreams etc. Anything that does that for pleasure is a very disturbing creature indeed.

I dont necessarily hate Nurgle, but I do dislike him. Corruption, filth and decay doesnt really seem like something I wana display proudly on my models.

I like to see Slaanesh as both hedonism and perfectionism, not just the sex god. Slaanesh's subject strive to reach the hight of pleasure and satisfaction, but what comes up must come down. I like to think Slaanesh yo-yo's those who serve "it" between intense pleasure and intense pain, thus being the god of excess and desire, not just sexual pleasure.

Tzeentch is my favorite. I like the fact he has dominion over change, magic, intelligence, deception and madness and especially in the Thousand Sons book you can see how that all ties together. Very good story and very wide-ranging, related aspects that allow you to be creative with inventing a tzeentch-dedicated army.

Khorne is much more narrow in is aspect, covering aspects just in violence and rage. Since I like Tzeentch, I havent thought about this god much, but now that I think of it... it kinda makes sense... I mean, no... I can ARRRRRRRRGGHHH! BLOOD AGAINST BLOOD!

Khorne. I'm a dedicated devotee of Slaanesh, and they don't really get along.

Slaanesh gets my vote. I just feel that Slaanesh adds the least to the table top aspect of the game, and really doesn't do much for any fluff except Eldar's.

Noc

Tzeentch:

A) After more than a decade of involvement in the hobby I am still not sure how to pronounce it.

B) Disks of Tzeetch used to have an unknown aesthetic before GW came out with flying neon mantarays. Aweful.

C) Similarly to the Disks, horrors are not really horrifying and the blue/pink dichotomy no longer has game affects.

D) In game terms they should be competing for No. 1 magic users but are far from it. New dex now please.

E) Super cheese two headed demon character

In sum, horrible aesthetics through and through and poor fluff representation in game. All made more annoying by their near necessity in a Deamons army.

The reason I voted Slaanesh has nothing to do with the Sexual side (and that speaks of peoples idea of excess and hedonism equalling sex) it is to do with the fact that people taking pride, and living in excess is a sure way to destroy ones self. Slaanesh is about intoxication, pure emotion and extreme sensation. And as another use said, Secrets. The bigger, the more humiliating etc the better. That is the reason to hate Slaanesh. The sexual side is tiny. He is about Pleasure and Secrets and Passion. Sex is a base pleasure after all, but pleasure comes from Artistic and other pursuits (read Fulgrim as it shows the debasement of the entire legion as they fall into worship of Slaanesh, and the remembermancers too!) Oh and he is the Dark Price, there is a theory about the fact he is portrayed as a hermaphrodite, that he can assume the form of what means the most to another, their darkest fantasy and secret, their fears and dreams etc. Anything that does that for pleasure is a very disturbing creature indeed.

Then we are in full agreement Fulgrim is still the best HH book! In terms of Secrets you are right! We all have secret desires at some point in our lives, fantasies about certain people/events/actions that we keep to ourselves, be it for a lover, a job, an act of kindness, to become rich or powerful, to say or 'be' different to who we are. We may not even be aware of them until a certain event happens that triggers them. No matter how small, trivial or big and down-right twisted these Secret thoughts/actions are/have been, Slaanesh would be able to amplify them to the full.

All the Chaos Gods aren't exactly a positive influence on anyone. All I'm saying is I can't "hate" them, for they represent a degree of truth about human nature/existance. Obviously if they were real I'd loathe them & all the humans who agve them power, but they aren't. I don't "hate" the Dark Side of the Force even though it is about the thoughts/feelings which are detrimental to the esoteric spiritual growth of the self because, let's face it, Force Lightning & Red Light Sabers are cool. The same principle applies to each of the Chaos Gods - they all have their appealing side in their background/models/rules for me.

Don't be hating - give yourself to Chaos you pathetic mortals!

Slaneesh. Because it killed all the eldar! Noooooooooooooo!

At least, that's how I like to look at it.

Nurgle. aka the big rotting puss ball. oh whoopy im immune to desieses...wait,i have ALL of them now.
im now also a rotting puss ball. so awsome, right? no. burn them,BURN THEM ALL!

Chaos is awesome but I mustsay Khorn i very boring...I mean its only abot blood and skulls nothing else.

Nurgle smells funky

acually slaanesh isnt the only one with nipple rings.....

page 54 sm codex

Slaanesh: The fluff is creepy, I don't like the look of slaanesh models, and the rules don't seem that great.

Khorne. Boring. All the others have cool weird Freudian concepts attached to them. Khorne is just violence for violence's sake.

BloodofOrks wrote:Khorne. Boring. All the others have cool weird Freudian concepts attached to them. Khorne is just violence for violence's sake.

Isn't that a Freudian (or psychological at least) concept in and of itself? The unrelenting hatred at every man, woman, child, the earth, existence itself? The driving desire to smash and destroy all you see, to give life its just desserts?

Certainly, this could be portrayed better, like slaanesh's hedonism, instead of "sex & music".



What Freudian concept does Nurgle represent? Or Tzeentch?

micahaphone wrote:

BloodofOrks wrote:Khorne. Boring. All the others have cool weird Freudian concepts attached to them. Khorne is just violence for violence's sake.

Isn't that a Freudian (or psychological at least) concept in and of itself? The unrelenting hatred at every man, woman, child, the earth, existence itself? The driving desire to smash and destroy all you see, to give life its just desserts?

Certainly, this could be portrayed better, like slaanesh's hedonism, instead of "sex & music".



What Freudian concept does Nurgle represent? Or Tzeentch?

While a Slaanesh devotee would take violence for violence sake to perfection, a Khornate would just be killing for the sake of SKUUUUULLS!!!

Now that I think about it, there is some fancy depth to be exploited in Khorne. Khorne isn't really blood for blood sake, it's a passing of emotion, a Khornate really loves the violence that he indulge in, he revels in the gore and death he spreads rather than the actual violence...

Although philosophical ponderings doesn't match with the red and brass, just saying. =p

The corpse god is missing.

I think some of us are missing the point of the chaos gods... first of all, they aren't supposed to have redeeming or pure motivations. They are manifestations of humanity's failings (speaking in broad terms, yes I know that in the fluff slaanesh was caused by the eldar etc whatever).

The way I'd summarize the gods is that khorne is a manifestation of man's fixation on warfare, nurgle of our tendency toward destruction and neglect, tzeentch of deceit and scheming as well as twisting of one's own reality, and slaanesh of insatiable desires. Which brings me to point two:

I think GW fails at properly portraying Slaanesh. This god is supposed to represent addiction and malcontent. Always needing more more more. This is something inherent in human nature... in some people more than others. It's why when we become too accustomed to things we become bored for example. So I think Slaanesh fits perfectly as one of the chaos gods. It's just too bad that everyone seems to think it's not Slaanesh unless it's pink, black, whipped, and drugged.

I voted Tzeentch because his name is wicked hard to pronounce and he's obviously the best one of all of them

Or Malal. Who's Malal? Oh never mind, he's just some band I've always liked that you've probably never heard of...


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PS. Remember the deamonettes they had briefly? Around 2006 I believe? Everyone says they got rid of them because of exposed breasts. I think the real reason is because they were one of the only "female" GW models with a visible decent looking face... can't have that now can we GW...

The corpse god is missing. inst Nurgle ?