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The Emperor founded the Inquisition personally. He most assuredly agrees with their purpose and tactics.

1) The Emperor personally ordered Malcador the Siillite to establish the Inquisition after the Istvaan V Drop-Site Massacre. He has no reason to disband it. He will centralize the ordos, and streamline them, in order to reduce conflicts between Inquisitors, make the organization more efficient as a whole, and make it easier to prosecute radicals.
2) The Ecclesiarchy will not be disbanded; the Emperor if anything is pragmatic and absolutely not an idiot; He'd never risk civil war by disbanding it and outlawing religion again. He would overhaul dogma and doctrine though; He would remain the god-head and saints will continue to be revered, but the Ecclesiarchy will be less stifling to individuality and creativity, and more Human with regards to it's activities.
3) The Emperor = Omnissiah. If the Emperor returns, then finally the Mechanicus will start innovating for the first time since the Great Crusade ended. They'll get off a slow start, but considering the Imperium's vast resources, one they build up momentum, not even the Tau can keep up.
4) The Chapters will remain. There's no point in trying to integrate different Chapters with different traditions together - more trouble than it's worth. And besides, Crusade-era Expeditionary Fleets only one Grand Company in them; Grand Company = Chapter. What He'll do is rewrite the Codex Astartes to be more flexible and up to date. Less dogmatic and more flexible and creative Chapters will make Astartes even more fearsome than they alread are.
5) The Imperial Guard and Navy will probably remain the same, though the Emperor will probably overhaul combat doctrine to be less dependent on burying an enemy in corpses - add to that new innovations in Imperial technology, and well, I'm sure once that happens even the Guard can take on Tau one-on-one.

Tadashi wrote:The Emperor = Omnissiah./quote]

That in and of itself will have the most dramatic change on the Imperium's fighting capability.

ContemplativeSphinx wrote:

Tadashi wrote:The Emperor = Omnissiah.

That in and of itself will have the most dramatic change on the Imperium's fighting capability.

No duh. Not only will the Mechanicus start innovating, the Emperor will probaby personally direct the 're-discovery' of principles and technologies forgotten by the Mechanicus. Imagine: the Imperium was able to endure for ten millenia by using technologies uncovered/developed during the two centuries of the Great Crusade. If they start innivating again, well now, I'm sure you get the idea.

He would ask the doctor (who had turned up and fixed the golden throne to revive him) if he could go for a ride to the past to get away from the high lords of terra as they were big zac efron fans (the horror XO worse then the seven hells of chaos)

Sorry i havent slept at all and have been watching dr who lol

I would hope he would just die finally and be reborn as a more powerful emperor who is pissed at everyone for keeping his old corpse alive for so long when he could have just reencarnated thousands of years ago.

If the Emperor woke up, his first thought would be..."O f#*k, where's my body!"

I do not see how the Emperor would make the Mechanicus to start inventing stuff. And even if the Imperium started it would be impossible to arm all soldiers with the new tech. I do not see any real change with the Emperor taking command.

Emperor upon inspection of everything that has gone on:
"I knew Rowboat would everything up "

Warrior Squirrel wrote:I do not see how the Emperor would make the Mechanicus to start inventing stuff. And even if the Imperium started it would be impossible to arm all soldiers with the new tech. I do not see any real change with the Emperor taking command.

Because under the Emperor during the Great Crusade, the Mechanicus didn't just recover old technology, they improved it and developed new ones. The only proscription was the research, development, and creation of AI's. Not to mention that I specifically said it would take centuries to equip all Imperial soldiers with new technology. And why wouldn't there be any change if the Emperor took command? For one thing, the Imperiu. Would grow more efficient and less obstructive, returning to the promise of the Great Crusade, albeit with religion and a few more proscriptions than from back then.

Afraid? I suddenly realized that there is NO chance for Imperial cooperation with the Tau, since you make use of AI's.

It seems like everybody sees the Emperor as a nice dude and sun shines out of his butt.

The Emperor didn't care about crushing religion for any reason other than denying chaos as Kettu pointed out earlier. In fact the atheist agenda he pushed out through the great crusade was a lie. He KNEW that there were gods. He KNEW that there were daemons. He kept this secret from all but a few of those closest to him. It turned out to be a miscalculation as the primarchs had know idea how to deal with near omnipotent metaphysical entities when they had to deal with them.

The whole deny chaos faith so that it will die ploy didn't work out. You could try throwing a Richard Dawkins book at a bloodthirster, but I don't think it would slow him down.

The Emperor isn't an STC machine. A lot of the tech that was lost in the Heresy predated the imperium and the emperor's return wouldn't do a whole lot to bring it back.


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Also, why would anyone think the Emperor would put a stop to xenophobia? It's kinda "his thing."

The Emperor awakes, looks about, and says 'I need an ale and 12 Adepta Sororitas lap dancers.'

'Why, my liege?'

"Because, awaking after ten thousand years, let us say that some parts are stiffer than others..."

Oakenshield wrote:It seems like everybody sees the Emperor as a nice dude and sun shines out of his butt.

The Emperor didn't care about crushing religion for any reason other than denying chaos as Kettu pointed out earlier. In fact the atheist agenda he pushed out through the great crusade was a lie. He KNEW that there were gods. He KNEW that there were daemons. He kept this secret from all but a few of those closest to him. It turned out to be a miscalculation as the primarchs had know idea how to deal with near omnipotent metaphysical entities when they had to deal with them.

The whole deny chaos faith so that it will die ploy didn't work out. You could try throwing a Richard Dawkins book at a bloodthirster, but I don't think it would slow him down.

The Emperor isn't an STC machine. A lot of the tech that was lost in the Heresy predated the imperium and the emperor's return wouldn't do a whole lot to bring it back.


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Also, why would anyone think the Emperor would put a stop to xenophobia? It's kinda "his thing."

I don't care if the Emperor isn't really a nice guy, and I don't imagine the rest of the Imperium will either. The best way to keep people happy and safe is to keep them ignorant. That's true even in the real world; remember the uproar over the leaked files in the internet? People are happy when they don't know the dirty things that happen in the background, and they don't need to know.

And the Emperor doesn't need to be an STC machine. He IS the Omnissiah - if He tells the Mechanicus to start innovating and doing proper research, His biggest problem will be trying to stop tech-priests from rampaging the archives and laboratories to beat one another in discovering and making new technologies.

Two words. Snooze Button.

Omegus wrote:

Most amusing .

But seriously, if anyone tried to do that, I'm guessing an entire section of the Imperial Palace is going to get blown out of the side of the mountain (was it Mt. Everest?) from the sheer RAGE of the Emperor. Not that it's gonna happen, of course. The Emperor is well aware of everything that's been happening. The Inner Circle of the Ordo Malleus is periodically granted an audience, not to mention the formation of the Sisters was done with Imperial approval; four (?) sisters who had an audience with the Emperor before Vandire got overthrown by the rebelling Astartes/Mechanicus.

The Mechanicus are not inventors. They are hoarders.

I can't find the Lexicanum article and it's really bothering me, but it had an excerpt from an Inquisitor trying to seek an audience with the Emperor.

It made it pretty clear that the Emperor is conscious; hell, he's aware of a lot of thing... I mean how else would the Storm of Emperor's Wrath come about?

Long story short, Ol' Empy knows what's going on, he's occupied every second of every day battling the warp 'n' running the astronomican and whatnot. His tone in the article I couldn't find seemed to suggest that he's come to terms with it all; that ultimately Humanity is safest worshipping him. I think his ideals have been shattered by experience. Faith is all that protects humanity from the warp nowadays.

Henners91 wrote:I can't find the Lexicanum article and it's really bothering me, but it had an excerpt from an Inquisitor trying to seek an audience with the Emperor.

It made it pretty clear that the Emperor is conscious; hell, he's aware of a lot of thing... I mean how else would the Storm of Emperor's Wrath come about?

Long story short, Ol' Empy knows what's going on, he's occupied every second of every day battling the warp 'n' running the astronomican and whatnot. His tone in the article I couldn't find seemed to suggest that he's come to terms with it all; that ultimately Humanity is safest worshipping him. I think his ideals have been shattered by experience. Faith is all that protects humanity from the warp nowadays.

Unfortunately that was from the now heavily retconned Inquisition War books (you know the ones with squats and Space Marines driving Titans and flying around in the old Space Fleet ships?)

Vendetta 476 wrote:Pretty much this:
http://wobblymodel.weebly.com/4/post/2011/10/38-a-long-nap.html

Yup pretty much. Though I think he'd probably kill everone in the imperial palace and take control again PROPERLY

Yes, I don't think the Emperor would be super shocked to see what his Empire has wrought, nor would he be moved by the plight of the people (by the time things could be changed enough to make their lives better, they'd be dead anyway, so why bother?)

He'd just embrace the spirit of necessity, and take up where he left off (not that the Webway project is salvageable at this point).

There is the problem that the emperor is nothing more then a corpse. He would wake iup asking why all the mirrors are missing from the palace

He'd probably pass out instantly for another 10,000 years.

I think he'd wake up and they'd tell him Abbadon had launched more crusades them him and he'd launch another crusade.


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I think he'd wake up and they'd tell him Abbadon had launched more crusades them him and he'd launch another crusade.

I think he'd wake up and the Imperium would immediately collapse as the Astonomicon would fail.

Warrior Squirrel wrote:The Mechanicus are not inventors. They are hoarders.

True enough, for the 41st Millennium Mechanicus.

But if the Emperor wakes up, and tells them to start inventing and innovating, they will. They'll still hoard, of course, the Treaty of Mars guarantees their monopoly on technology. But if the Omnissiah Himself (the Emperor) tells to do something, they'll do it without a second thought.


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BaronIveagh wrote:

Henners91 wrote:I can't find the Lexicanum article and it's really bothering me, but it had an excerpt from an Inquisitor trying to seek an audience with the Emperor.

It made it pretty clear that the Emperor is conscious; hell, he's aware of a lot of thing... I mean how else would the Storm of Emperor's Wrath come about?

Long story short, Ol' Empy knows what's going on, he's occupied every second of every day battling the warp 'n' running the astronomican and whatnot. His tone in the article I couldn't find seemed to suggest that he's come to terms with it all; that ultimately Humanity is safest worshipping him. I think his ideals have been shattered by experience. Faith is all that protects humanity from the warp nowadays.

Unfortunately that was from the now heavily retconned Inquisition War books (you know the ones with squats and Space Marines driving Titans and flying around in the old Space Fleet ships?)

A lot of the details have been retconned, but the basic plot is still valid. None of the newer material has actually invalidated the existence of the Illuminati or the Emperor's origin story, among other things.


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Omegus wrote:Yes, I don't think the Emperor would be super shocked to see what his Empire has wrought, nor would he be moved by the plight of the people (by the time things could be changed enough to make their lives better, they'd be dead anyway, so why bother?)

He'd just embrace the spirit of necessity, and take up where he left off (not that the Webway project is salvageable at this point).

With regards to the Webway, He's going to have to start from scratch after a major and long-overdue oerhaul of the Golden Throne.

The description of the Throne's destruction by Magnus is pretty cut and dry that the damage is irreversible.

Yeah, but the Emperor built it himself. I'm sure he could get it working again.

The Emperor did not build it, he adapted existing technology (probably Necrontyr in origin).

O sure he used stolen technology but he still built it. he must have understood the basic principals of their operation.