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More Behemoth pics from Facebook:





It is a big shopping cart. I like the model but the cart's size bothers me.

Someone on Facebook posted a side by side of the model and a game still, and it looks like in game the shopping cart is positioned differently on the Behemoth's back, but still looks slightly smaller than what is shown on the model. Perhaps re-positioning the cart will make the scale look better?

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

Someone on Facebook posted a side by side of the model and a game still, and it looks like in game the shopping cart is positioned differently on the Behemoth's back, but still looks slightly smaller than what is shown on the model. Perhaps re-positioning the cart will make the scale look better?

That's because the Behemoths size ingame is scaled up further then it should be. The Fire Hydrant and shopping cart are surprisingly HUGE and you can tell they wanted to make it bigger without making an issue out of what it was wielding.

It is odd because other items could be subbed in for the cart and hydrant and "look right" scale-wise. Change the shopping cart to a garbage dumpster, and the hydrant to a gasoline pump or a vending machine, and you'd get the same basic effect (big loot holder on the back and big club in hand) without having the comically large props the behemoth ended up with. But that is on Betheseda, not Modiphius. Still, the behemoth model joins up the ghouls as technically accurate to the game renders but models I don't wish to own due to their aesthetics.

 Geifer wrote:


The cart looks separate. Wouldn't even take any resculpting if you find something large enough to connect to both ends of the chain.

Reaper's Bones dumpster might work in place of the shopping cart/trolley. The dumpster is large and would be pretty easy to junk up and make it looks setting appropriate.

https://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Bones/release/80035#detail/80035_w_2

Is Nick offering a smoke? That is pretty cool!

 Geifer wrote:
Neat. Ol' Nicky's first foray into a chem pusher career.

Clearly the Institute is funded by Big Tobacco!

Surprised the Zetan is only PVC.

Since that figure will be the pre-order bonus for wave 2 I wonder if it will get the resin treatment then?

I am asking on Facebook for clarification but so far it seems the Zetan is staying PVC even as the Wave 2 pre-order bonus.

John Gordon Chris Birch will that flip when Zeta is the 2nd wave pre-order bonus? I.e. Nuka Girl then becomes PVC for and Zeta resin?
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Chris Birch John Gordon no what will happen is retail preorders can get nuka girl and online preorders get alien zetan
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John Gordon Chris Birch Ah ok. So the Zetan will never be available in resin? Bummer.

*edit with update from Chris Birch*


So maybe a resin Zetan is coming!

Chris Birch John Gordon everything else is so it’s likely we’ll do one in resin maybe in wave 2
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 Geifer wrote:

Oh my, that looks like a ground version of the Vertibird Gatling gun! Wonder if that will be a Brotherhood-only special item or something everyone can use?

 Geifer wrote:


From the development blog:

A set of military barricades is expected of any defensive position and the new turrets are going to come in useful - especially the manned gatling gun.

"Any" sounds good to me. My guess is it'll depend on how you intend to play. I could see these being restricted in competitive mode (possibly because of a restriction of point defense, but also because of heavy weapon upgrades - who knows?). In narrative mode there's no guiding rules except your sense of morality, which should be switched off immediately at the sight of this baby.

Thanks, I haven't been following the blog much.

Sounds like we should have this available late July and early August then. Score! August is my birthday month and my wife likes Fallout so someone my be asking for FWW for his birthday!

Cool, so probably still mid-late August for us Yanks.

Classy move to hold off selling at Gen Con until pre-orders ship.

Hm... Zetans at Gen Con. Anyone ninja shopping?


JonWebb - Is the Zetan still PVC or did the it get the resin treatment?

 JonWebb wrote:
Robots, Creatures and Scenics are available at retail, but only with retailers who join our direct order scheme.

I was going to comment that "scheme" might not be the best word for what you guys are doing, but after a quick Google search it looks like scheme doesn't have the same negative connotation in the UK as it does in the US.

Program or plan might be more neutral terms, at least to US eyes.

Heh, English is fun.

My excitement for the game has dropped substantially from when it was first announced, and seeing the gorgeous models popping up on Facebook and knowing they are still unavailable at retail is sapping my remaining enthusiasm.

Still, the models are what I want, and when they eventually hit store shelves I'll buy them. I wouldn't dream of pre-ordering with Modipius unless 1) they offered a substantial financial savings to offset potential delays (which they won't do since it would ruin retail pre-orders) or 2) Wave 2's execution is a flawless display of logistical prowess. They need to earn those interest-free loans and from my perspective that trust hasn't been established yet.

Found a resin Super Mutant box in the wild!

Great sculpts, very clean casting and the thematic bases are just wonderful.

Now I need to track down the components of the starter box sans PVC minis. Anyone buy multiple boxes and want to part with the components?

 JonWebb wrote:
As a small company...

Honestly, Modiphius has flip-flopped on this issue from the beginning so it is hard to take this defense seriously.

When criticized for launching so many projects in short order Modiphius claims they have teams to separate the work load and that multiple licenses aren't going to muck up the works. When things go badly Modiphius leans on the small company bit. You guys need to pick one. Either you are a small company that maybe should pump the brakes a bit and focus on a few projects or stop claiming you are a small company and own the failures.

How many "small companies" have such a diverse product range as:
Fallout: Wasteland Warfare
John Carter of Mars
Infinity: The Roleplaying Game
Star Trek Adventures
Vampire: The Masquerade
Conan: Adventures in an Age Undreamed Of
Tales from the Loop
Kung-Fu Panda

Plus all the other RPGs that Modipihus has in their store? If you guys are a small company, then most gaming companies are microscopic!

 JonWebb wrote:
...we cant mass produce stock ahead of time (and resin isn’t a mass production method) so we ordered what we thought were sensible amounts to last the year. Turns out fallout is huge and that stock was eaten up in pre-order, hence the distribution woes.

Also, how was pre-ordered stock "eaten up in pre-orer"? Wasn't the point of the pre-order to determine needed stock levels both for the pre-order and for retail? Or are you saying that the resin was ordered before the pre-order numbers were obtained and Modiphius simply under-estimated the demand in general? If so, what was the point of the pre-order?

None of this makes any sense.

 JonWebb wrote:


Yes, we are small. But, yes, we are larger than some other companies.

Our portfolio is big for sure, and Chris is a master at getting big name licences. RPGs are bigger than Wargames/Board Games in house for sure. We are also growing massively and have taken on a number of staff in the last year and a half I've been with the company.

My team (wargames) is me, two line managers, one developer and one part time/free lance designer. 4.5 guys... hardly huge.

We then share our graphic design and miniature sculpting team with the other departments, plus any freelance designers or sculptors we need.

A lot of the RPG work is done by freelancers, as is our board game work.

Admin team is again shared, and not massive.

Lloyd is our customer service stalwart, though he is assisted at times by other members of the team (especially currently as we are hit with the double whammy of Fallout mispack requests and the Chinese spammer attack that keeps filling his email box).

https://www.modiphius.com/about.html
That's the bulk of us, and several of those folks are either part time/free lance, or else work out of office.

You aren't small, and you guys might be taking on too many projects. At least that is my take away. If you are leaning on the "we are a small company, cut us some slack" when you have multiple teams working on various projects it seems clear you've bitten off more than you can chew. I've brought this up before and received the same "we are growing massively" response, and yet, here is the small company excuse again. Sorry, but that doesn't hold water. Sure, Modiphius isn't Games Workshop in size and scope, but you are bigger than many of the gaming companies out there.

 JonWebb wrote:
In terms of the resin. We planned for X, we made X, pre -orders came in and were Y. So, we then had to produce the difference, hence why some product has been delayed in shipping. Making the volume of resin we needed isn't an instant thing.
Hence why we are looking at other methods to ensure demand can be met.

Isn't that handling a pre-order backwards? Isn't the point of a pre-order to determine how much stock to produce? If I am understanding you correctly Modiphius ordered the resin (X) first, then took people's money for pre-orders (Y), and there was a difference between X and Y. That just doesn't make sense. You've known the volume of pre-orders for the better part of a year. Resin production is slow but come on. Something just doesn't add up.

 JonWebb wrote:
I know its frustrating. We are frustrated too. Trust me, we don't sit around on piles of money laughing at our customers who are unable to get their hands on the games they want. Nor are we over the moon about the packing and production issues that have been occurring (blue dice, mispacked/labelled product is out of our hands, but of course reflects poorly on us). All I can say is we are trying all we can to resolve the issues as fast as possible, and we are learning and planning to avoid them in the future. If we don't, well I know as a gamer that gamers vote with their feet/wallets, but lets hope it doesn't come to that.

I am not having a go at you for gaks and giggles. I just want you to be honest with us and not give us spin. I am glad you guys are frustrated, and hope that spurs change.

I hope that kinks are sorted out because the models for this game are wonderful, and the rules seem fun. However, the rest is a fething nightmare and it has tanked any sort of trust I have in Modiphius to deliver product accurately and on time, and has really impacted my view of the game.

Because I'll be honest. This game went from my most anticipated product this year to something that makes me annoyed. I am annoyed seeing previews for new waves when I can't get wave 1 items easily. I am annoyed that if I can track down wave 1 stuff there may be manufacturing problems with those items, and I am annoyed that I can't generate interest among my friends because many products won't be available until January (or later). And I avoid things that annoy me. I've already set FWW on the back burner and plan on re-examining it in 2019 when the dust settles. That is a crappy arc to have a customer, going from pants-gakking-excitement to apathy in the span of a year.

Zachectomy wrote:
So... how long is an order supposed to take to arrive? I ordered the Resin collector's starter set, the supermutant starter box, sanctuary survivors, and hammer. In october.

I've yet to receive anything and every time I've emailed customer service the answer has been "we will ship it as soon as possible"

This information is over a month old so it may not be accurate, but everything I've been reading on the F:WW Facebook page indicates the time tables are still mostly correct.

 modiphius wrote:


We're processing orders from our webstore since Sept 15th in the 1st week of December after which we're aiming to switch everything over to stock products so some items will become unavailable at times. We'll likely add an App that lets you add your name to a mailing list alert when it comes back in stock. Currently we're feeding the smaller expansions over to the US distributors so they have their pre-order stock this month (they had 3 of 7 this week, the rest due the week after next. Meanwhile Europe will get a big re-stock of two player starters for distribution first week of Dec, then USA in January. That was supposed to be USA in December too but the tariff war is causing major issues getting ships out of china, and into US ports.

We're aiming to get retailers re-stocks of the faction core sets in February, and the smaller expansions to everyone in February. after which things should settle down to monthly re-stocks of everything leading to wave 2. We've starting talking to several US resin producers to see if they can match the quality from our UK factory. If they can the plan is to start up US production of the faction core sets (which have to go be sea freight and therefore take the longest from the UK) followed by the smaller expansion sets and that will effectively double our capacity and speed up deliveries in to North American retail.

So, January-ish it seems.