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2017/11/17 17:49:14
Subject: Re:New Craftworld Eldar FAQ, Actualized Xenos 1 for Ynnari and Designer Notes for Index vs Codex
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Executing Exarch
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Azreal13 wrote: Turnip Jedi wrote:Gahh, yet again nerfs to things I buy, starting to think I'm jinxed,over the last year or so, Jumpmasters for X-Wing, Fish, Union and Alchemists for Guildball, Wurmwood and Tuna for WMH, and now Ynnari, /grumpyface
At least it isn't things you enjoy eating this time.
its a loyalty card conspiracy I tells you
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2017/11/17 18:48:17
Subject: New Craftworld Eldar FAQ, Actualized Xenos 1 for Ynnari and Designer Notes for Index vs Codex
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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Thud wrote:A Saim-Hann Autarch Skyrunner with Banshee Mask, Reaper Launcher and a Laser Lance (or even the relic lance) as the warlord with the sniper trait seems like a pretty good option.
As far as I can gather, that all works, right?
It works sure, but this demonstrates why the FAQ still didn't get it right. They never made a model like that, and I also have never come across such a load out until 8th. Meaning the index is being used as a loophole to get better gear rather then a crutch for old out of print models. I'd like everyoine to consider the spirit of the game while they rush off to kitbash an autarch tonight, because make no mistake, if your going out of your way to make an uber autarch from scratch BECAUSE of this FAQ then I have no tears to shed from you in a year or two when they finally do phase out permanently.
BTW I wasn't calling you out specifically Thud, I actually know a few dudes that I am SURE go out of their way to make such models, which they never owned and are doing it purely based on rules loopholes. I wouldn't have a problem with it if they had kept them in the codex, but this haphazard way of finding points is BS, a banshee mask is now free? Yea, ok... Thats kind of a strong piece of kit compared to the index and since they released it this way you can be sure there was no balance kept in mind when you consider certain load outs.
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2017/11/17 19:03:43
Subject: New Craftworld Eldar FAQ, Actualized Xenos 1 for Ynnari and Designer Notes for Index vs Codex
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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Red Corsair wrote: Thud wrote:A Saim-Hann Autarch Skyrunner with Banshee Mask, Reaper Launcher and a Laser Lance (or even the relic lance) as the warlord with the sniper trait seems like a pretty good option.
As far as I can gather, that all works, right?
It works sure, but this demonstrates why the FAQ still didn't get it right. They never made a model like that, and I also have never come across such a load out until 8th. Meaning the index is being used as a loophole to get better gear rather then a crutch for old out of print models. I'd like everyoine to consider the spirit of the game while they rush off to kitbash an autarch tonight, because make no mistake, if your going out of your way to make an uber autarch from scratch BECAUSE of this FAQ then I have no tears to shed from you in a year or two when they finally do phase out permanently.
BTW I wasn't calling you out specifically Thud, I actually know a few dudes that I am SURE go out of their way to make such models, which they never owned and are doing it purely based on rules loopholes. I wouldn't have a problem with it if they had kept them in the codex, but this haphazard way of finding points is BS, a banshee mask is now free? Yea, ok... Thats kind of a strong piece of kit compared to the index and since they released it this way you can be sure there was no balance kept in mind when you consider certain load outs.
No, they never made a model for that loadout. However, it has been an option for the last three editions, and people have converted models in all those editions to represent the gear. The index options were never designed to represent any model GW ever produced, but every *option* they ever allowed. Case in point: Lasplas razorbacks, MotF with conversion beamer, any SM character on a bike.
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2017/11/17 19:03:59
Subject: New Craftworld Eldar FAQ, Actualized Xenos 1 for Ynnari and Designer Notes for Index vs Codex
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Apart the Autarch, this flowchart method works fine. I think they could compensate for errating higher point cost for certain gear when chosen by the Autarch.
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2017/11/17 19:26:18
Subject: New Craftworld Eldar FAQ, Actualized Xenos 1 for Ynnari and Designer Notes for Index vs Codex
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Lethal Lhamean
Birmingham
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It's a shame FW removed the option for the Autarch to take a Prism Rifle as thats how I built mine and still can't use it.
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2017/11/17 20:18:34
Subject: New Craftworld Eldar FAQ, Actualized Xenos 1 for Ynnari and Designer Notes for Index vs Codex
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Fixture of Dakka
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Tyr13 wrote:No, they never made a model for that loadout. However, it has been an option for the last three editions, and people have converted models in all those editions to represent the gear. The index options were never designed to represent any model GW ever produced, but every *option* they ever allowed. Case in point: Lasplas razorbacks, MotF with conversion beamer, any SM character on a bike.
Las/ plas razorbacks and a Chaplain on a bike were previously produced - both during 2nd edition, off the top of my head, and the las/ plas was the *original* Razorback loadout, before all these Johnny-come-lately options...
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2017/11/17 20:49:43
Subject: New Craftworld Eldar FAQ, Actualized Xenos 1 for Ynnari and Designer Notes for Index vs Codex
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Been Around the Block
Zaandam Netherlands
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oh yesss,so my made to order exarch with banshee mask,wings and reaper launcher is damn good right now
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2017/11/17 21:22:20
Subject: Re:New Craftworld Eldar FAQ, Actualized Xenos 1 for Ynnari and Designer Notes for Index vs Codex
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Lieutenant General
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New Warhammer 40,000 FAQs: What you need to know on Warhammer Community. Some interesting insights, especially into the 'Ynnari Nerf'.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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2017/11/17 22:20:51
Subject: New Craftworld Eldar FAQ, Actualized Xenos 1 for Ynnari and Designer Notes for Index vs Codex
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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So a Confirmation that Harlequins will have their own Codex.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2017/11/17 22:30:22
Subject: New Craftworld Eldar FAQ, Actualized Xenos 1 for Ynnari and Designer Notes for Index vs Codex
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Executing Exarch
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Galas wrote:So a Confirmation that Harlequins will have their own Codex.
but no mention of a Ynnari one, I know theres most likely not enough to fill one but a whole Clown Codex is quite a stretch too
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2017/11/17 22:46:15
Subject: New Craftworld Eldar FAQ, Actualized Xenos 1 for Ynnari and Designer Notes for Index vs Codex
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Stubborn White Lion
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Turnip Jedi wrote: Galas wrote:So a Confirmation that Harlequins will have their own Codex.
but no mention of a Ynnari one, I know theres most likely not enough to fill one but a whole Clown Codex is quite a stretch too
We might finally see mimes and a high avatar get models especially now harlequins are allowed HQ choices I could see troupe masters becoming like lieutenants and having a couple per HQ choice kind of deal.
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2017/11/18 03:01:52
Subject: New Craftworld Eldar FAQ, Actualized Xenos 1 for Ynnari and Designer Notes for Index vs Codex
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Tyr13 wrote: Red Corsair wrote: Thud wrote:A Saim-Hann Autarch Skyrunner with Banshee Mask, Reaper Launcher and a Laser Lance (or even the relic lance) as the warlord with the sniper trait seems like a pretty good option.
As far as I can gather, that all works, right?
It works sure, but this demonstrates why the FAQ still didn't get it right. They never made a model like that, and I also have never come across such a load out until 8th. Meaning the index is being used as a loophole to get better gear rather then a crutch for old out of print models. I'd like everyoine to consider the spirit of the game while they rush off to kitbash an autarch tonight, because make no mistake, if your going out of your way to make an uber autarch from scratch BECAUSE of this FAQ then I have no tears to shed from you in a year or two when they finally do phase out permanently.
BTW I wasn't calling you out specifically Thud, I actually know a few dudes that I am SURE go out of their way to make such models, which they never owned and are doing it purely based on rules loopholes. I wouldn't have a problem with it if they had kept them in the codex, but this haphazard way of finding points is BS, a banshee mask is now free? Yea, ok... Thats kind of a strong piece of kit compared to the index and since they released it this way you can be sure there was no balance kept in mind when you consider certain load outs.
No, they never made a model for that loadout. However, it has been an option for the last three editions, and people have converted models in all those editions to represent the gear. The index options were never designed to represent any model GW ever produced, but every *option* they ever allowed. Case in point: Lasplas razorbacks, MotF with conversion beamer, any SM character on a bike.
Sure loving my index Marbo and IG veterans with carapace, camo cloaks, and demolition gear over here...
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2017/11/18 06:59:57
Subject: New Craftworld Eldar FAQ, Actualized Xenos 1 for Ynnari and Designer Notes for Index vs Codex
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
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Stick with Rick and Morty. Real Craftworld does it better!
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No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester
The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
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