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Hi guys,

Been playing some chaos lately and not doing to well, just wondering if somebody can look over my army new army list and let me know what they think

rules are no fliers, HQ cannot exceed 170 points and total armour value cannot exceed 33 when totalling up all sides

Lord 170 Points
Juggernaut of Khorn
Axe of Blind Fury
Mark of Khorn
Sigil of Corruption

Chaos Space Marines 90 Points
Plasma Gun

Rhino 47 Points
Havoc Launcher

Chaos Space Marines 90 Points
Plasma Gun

Rhino 47 Points
Havoc Launcher

Spawn x 5 150 Points

Biker Squad 75 points

Armys I'm going to be facing are Tau, Space Wolves, Orks, Marines, Imperial Guard, Blood Angels, Necrons

My plan was to have the lord and Spawn go for the baddest units and hopefully take them out with attacks, biker squad go up the flanks and whittle down units with the Havoc Launchers

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Thanks for the reply, and yeah I could drop a Spawn and get some special weapons on the bike 2 Plasmas or a Melta and another bike maybe?

I think having a lord that is almost 1/3 of your points is a poor choice.

At Low point games I think CSM HQ's have two roles:
Provide fearless to a unit
Buy the Burning Brand of Skalathrax

The Jugg lord is battle proven but too pricey I think for such a small point game.

Rhinos are fantastic, as is plasma.

Bikers you'd want to take melta here since you have sufifcent plasma already. How much 2+ armor saves are you expecting your opponent to take in a 600 pt game? hehe

IF IT WERE ME...I'd run something like this:

600 pts

Chaos Sorcerer- ML 3, Spell Familiar, BBoS
9 CSM- Plasma Gun, Rhino w/ Combi-Melta
15 Cultists- flamer
15 Cultists- flamer
3 Nurgle Bikers- 2 Melta

The CSM squad is your death star, casting out spells and gak. Through the two fire points you shoot witchfires, BBoS, and the plasma gun.
The cultists are your meat and potatoes
The bikers are your specialists for Anti-Armor

I kinda disagree on the juggerlord part. Him and the spawn can take out the entire other army alone. It's OP and even more so at 800 points. The bikes do need meltas though. Gotta have more to kill vehicles or big things.

The list changer of ways has is also very good and I would be happy with it too.

Cheers guys, I'll try Changer of Ways list Thursday with a game probably dark angels, is the Sorcerer marked at all?

No, rarely would you want to mark a sorc. He's required to take the primaris due to chaos focus and additionally he has to roll at least once on the god's chart. Most of the time that's not worth it.

Take all in telepathy or telekinesis depending on what you're looking for.

Your sinking ALOT of points into your chaos lord. Don't get me wrong he probably kills the S@#$ out of things but that's way to many points to be spending on one chaos lord.
Just ditch the Juggernaut for a bike and the sigil of corruption and hes good.

Also maybe drop the havoc launchers, everything aside your rhinos aren't suppose to sit still and shoot they should be moving aka cant snap fire template weapons.

With the points you save here you should be able to add AT LEAST a couple more bikes in your bike squad.

Hope this helps

Thanks guys really appreciate the advice

I guess I like the idea of a big killing lord leading from the front smashing into an army and generally causing chaos, slaughtering the enemy, which is why I've invested so many points into him, the Havoc launchers where there to provide covering fire while the Lord and spawn rush up, maybe whittle away a few models before the crunch