Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Hi all,

finally resorting to taking Daemon allies to pimp my Chaos Space Marines. I'd like to take them to give me better anti air options and to add more warp counters. So what I was thinking of is taking buying a herald of Tzeentch on a disc and some more Pink Horrors (got 20 already). I do have 2 Daemon Princes from my CSM, so they can be equipped differently as CD princes. I have also access to a Soul Grinder from the CD army of my girlfriend, along with some daemonettes, juggernauts, the skulltaker and the masque.

Anything else (Nurgle? Herald of Nurgle?) that is worth considering?

Thanks and regards,
Murenius

If you dig some nurgle, my favorite allied detachment would be:

Herald of nurgle, lesser gift, ML1 or 2 with FnP locus.
15 plaguebearers
4 plague drones, rot proboscis+character+lesser gift.
Take etherblade for rewards. The plague drone character will wreck TDA with 5 attacks on the charge AP2 poison3.

Roll biomancy on herald, hell go ML3 if you want. Iron arm, endurance and warp speed are kings. If you get endurance, hit the plague drones with it. They are now freakishly strong. I like to move my herald between units sometimes. PB also make for a good deepstrike unit. fun for back field disruption, as are daemonettes.

Soul grinders of slaanesh with torrent, or nurgle with phlegm are my 2 grinder variants.

Sounds nice, but can those do anything against flyers?

Also, can someone tell me if there is a Tzeentch Herald model without Disc or Chariot? I think you can take them without disc, but do you always have to buy one (in terms of the model I mean)?

The best Demon Anti-Air is a Flying Slaanesh Demon Prince with a Greater Reward for a Lash of Despair (2d6 12" S6 attacks, which can be S9 if you get Iron Arm). Otherwise you're using Soulgrinders for a BS3 Autocannon equivalent (which does have Skyfire) or any FMC for Vector Strikes. You might get lucky with some Flickering Fire of Tzeentch psychic shooting, but that's long odds especially if you're snapshoting on top of an already random psychic power.

As for Tzeentch Heralds, it's either the Herald on Disc or Burning Chariot which is slightly annoying if you didn't want to shell out the extra dollars. However I've used Warriors of Chaos Tzeentch Sorcerer Lords as Heralds and it works nicely.

It depends entirely on the rest of your army. Want anti-air options? Well, Daemons are not your buddies. Go Necrons for that.

What daemons do is giving you cheap warp charges (Horrors/Heralds) and/or rush-buddies (flesh hounds/seekers/screamers).

Soul Grinders are very good and you can't really go wrong with them. Horrors are good for warp charges, daemonettes are good for being fast. Nurglings are great now that swarms are Objective Secured (they are cheap and easy to hide), but Heralds are just really meh. Every other herald type is better for most things (faster, better spellcasters, etc.)

Thanks for the hints

I won't go for Necron allies, though, since then I could just play my full Necron army. It's sort of a fluff thing, I loved summoning demons back in the old times so it's okay for me to take CD allies