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Sarasota, FL

Is there a way to get a Flyer on the board on Turn 1 besides the Skyshield Landing Pad special upgrade? Thanks for any help!

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Space marines have a way of doing it via tyranic war veterans formation - storm talons infiltrate and mandantroy chaplin + sternguard squad (not quite but it's almost like a sternguard unit)

blood angles also have a way of getting a 3 storm raven on formation that comes in turn 1 (mandantory marines on board)

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IIRC there is a BA formation that allows it. TWV formation can let talons start on the table as well. Might be more out there.

Darn ninjas.

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Thanks guys! Specifically GK Stormravens...

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 BladeWalker wrote:
Thanks guys! Specifically GK Stormravens...

Then no.
   
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Skyshield it is! Anything to avoid yard darting with 600+ pts of dudes on board...

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Elysians get to combat drop flyers turn 1
   
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jSewell wrote:
Elysians get to combat drop flyers turn 1


Automatically or on a reserve roll?

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 BladeWalker wrote:
Automatically or on a reserve roll?


It works like drop pods. Half of your Valkyries (both regular and sky talon variant), drop Sentinels, and sentry guns automatically arrive on turn 1 by deep strike. The rest either deploy or go into reserve normally. Note that ONLY Valkyries can do this, none of your other flyers count for the "half your eligible units" total or arrive on turn 1. So forget about delivering any significant firepower with this rule. It's little more than an option to have a full-reserve drop troops army without automatically losing the game due to that idiotic "no models on the table at the end of a turn" rule.

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You would have to have 8 valks to pull that off, but yes it can be devastating.
In an army I am planning, I will have two valks(with either plasma or melta vets depending on whats there), three venators with TL LCs, two drop sentinels and a Cyclops team on the board first turn. Should be pretty nasty to try and take out the most lethal stuff first before follow on things arrive.

If you dont short hand your list, Im not reading it.
Example: Assault Intercessors- x5 -Thunder hammer and plasma pistol on sgt.
or Assault Terminators 3xTH/SS, 2xLCs
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Col. Dash wrote:
You would have to have 8 valks to pull that off, but yes it can be devastating.
In an army I am planning, I will have two valks(with either plasma or melta vets depending on whats there), three venators with TL LCs, two drop sentinels and a Cyclops team on the board first turn. Should be pretty nasty to try and take out the most lethal stuff first before follow on things arrive.


Or 4 Valks, and then a little over 100pts on sentry guns, or a bit over a 150pts on Sentinels (probably my choice, Elysians don't get a massive amount out of their Elites).

Other then the sky shield, and Elysians, I think it's just the Blood Angels. Sorry.

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Sarasota, FL

Thanks for the info all, I will read up on Elysians. Might need some air cav allies.

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