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So I have a 2k tourney coming up and I am unlucky (or stupid) enough to be an ork player. I'm expecting wraithspam (both necron and eldar variety) and bikespam. I know of 3 players playing necrons or eldar- I am not particularly worried about any other faction to be honest. 3 games, at least one will be tacticals, and one will likely (and tragically) be kill points. If there is a kill point game it'll be an uphill battle but I'm sure I can find a way to prevail as long as I'm not matched against eldar for that one.

Only 1 CAD allowed with options of up to 1 formation and / or allies / fortification.

Without further ado:

++Primary Detachment: Ork Warband Formation

+Warboss, Finking Cap: 70pts (Warlord)

+Mekboy w/ Mega Blaster: 20pts

+Nobs unit w/ Heavy Armour: 275pts
-Boss Nob w/ Klaw and Shoota
-4 Nobs w/ Big Choppa and Shootas
-Battlewagon w/ Ram and Big Shoota

+Grots 35pts

+10 Boyz + SluggaChoppa Nob w/ Bosspole in Trukk w/ Ram: 116pts
+11 Boyz + SluggaChoppa Nob w/ Bosspole in Trukk w/ Ram: 122pts
+11 Boyz + BigChoppa/Shoota Nob w/ Bosspole in Trukk w/ Ram: 127pts
+11 Boyz + BigChoppa/Shoota Nob w/ Bosspole in Trukk w/ Ram: 127pts
+11 Boyz + Klaw/Shoota Nob w/ Bosspole in Trukk w/ Ram: 147pts
+11 Boyz + Klaw/Shoota Nob w/ Bosspole in Trukk w/ Ram: 147pts

+++CAD

++HQ

+Weirdboy: 45pts

+Warboss w/ Heavy Armour, Powerklaw + Shoota, Attack Squig, Bosspole: 109pts

++TROOPS

+Grots 35pts
+Grots 35pts

+FAST

+Dakkajet w/ extra shoota + Flyboss: 145pts
+Dakkajet w/ extra shoota + Flyboss: 145pts

+5 Rokkit Deffkoptas: 150pts

++HEAVY

+Looted Wagon w/ Killkannon, Ram, and Big Shoota: 77pts

+Looted Wagon w/ Killkannon and Ram: 72pts

Total: 1999pts

Premise is to waaagh every turn. The warboss in the CAD is my melee powerhouse (in test matched I made the mistake of making the warlord the combat machine and lost my waaagh every turn to an angry lysander) while the formation warboss just hides in the battlewagon or in a corner if the enemy has no barrage or outflanking. That many units of trukks lets me be anywhere on the table, and FAST. Deffkoptas outflank for rear armour shots. Dakkajets capitalize on waaagh every turn so I nearly get a third dakkajet for the price of 2. Grots start the game giving 5+ cover to the trukks, then dive out of the way and camp backfield objectives. If eternal, keep grots in reserve and walk them on later for objective grabs.

Advice? Do you think I am taking a fundamentally wrong approach? And and all C&C is valuable.

I realy don't know man hou you gona deal with those eldar? Are low allowed? If yeas hou yo gona deal with them?

The plan for wraithknights will likely just be to

A. Ignore them and play the objectives / focus down the things I *can* kill

B. Throw units under the bus as necessary. This list has a LOT of units I can send to their doom without feeling an ounce of guilt about.

C. The deffkoptas can hopefully knock a few wounds off each turn. Dakkajets might also be able to help. Worst comes to worst I can throw a warboss at it if its seriously presenting that much of a threat to the army.

I don't really have anything dedicated to killing wraithknights to be honest. I feel like if I invest in a unit to kill it, I'd have to invest in a second or third duplicate for redundancy, and by then I've squandered more points on anti-wraith than he's spent on it, and in that case I've already lost. Am I scared and worried? Definitely. I'll have to figure something out to keep my opponent preoccupied or misdirected.

A unit of Tank bustas could help with Eldar a bit.

But I think you are right. Try to ignore the Knight if you can. Depending on which for of knight it is.

I absolutely love Tankbustas but I have no idea where I'd fit them in. They're pretty pricey in comparison to other ork units available. The only things I could really drop would be the looted wagons which I'd rather not because of armour saturation and access to some pie plates, the deffkoptas (which I'd rather keep for the usual deffkopta jobs) or cut down the Nob unit significantly. I've actually grown rather fond of a big choppa nob unit. They can cut down pretty much anything just with the sheer volume of high strength attacks they throw down, especially on the charge. Nearly every hit is a guaranteed wound, so even terminators go down to these guys.

Dont like the looted wagons

Dont like nobs

Your list is not so good IMO.

Bully Boyz in Trukks wreck some shizzle. Get first on T1 and watch the elves scatter!

Or something really nean.....
+++ Bully Boyz. (1843pts) +++

++ Orks: Codex (2014) (Formation Detachment) ++

+ Formation +

"Ghazghkull's Bullyboyz"
Meganobz [Boss Meganob w/ Killsaws, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha]
Meganobz [Boss Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha]
Meganobz [Boss Meganob w/ Killsaws, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha]

++ Orks: Codex (2014) (Formation Detachment) ++

+ Formation +

"Blitz Brigade"
Battlewagon [Reinforced Ram, Rokkit Launcha]
Battlewagon [Reinforced Ram, Rokkit Launcha]
Battlewagon [Reinforced Ram, Rokkit Launcha]
Battlewagon [Reinforced Ram, Rokkit Launcha]
Battlewagon [Reinforced Ram, Rokkit Launcha]

++ Orks: Codex (2014) (Ork Horde Detachment) ++

+ HQ +

Big Mek
Mega Armour [Kustom Force Field, Kustom Mega-blasta]

Big Mek [Warbike]
Basic Ork Armour [Choppa, Kustom Force Field]

+ Elites +

Tankbustas [6x Tankbusta]

+ Troops +

Gretchin [10x Gretchin]
Runtherd [Grabba stik]

Gretchin [10x Gretchin]
Runtherd [Grabba stik]

Gretchin [10x Gretchin]
Runtherd [Grabba stik]

+ Heavy Support +

Lootas [10x Loota]

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Give the grots posssible deep strike for late game objectives, and failing that walk on. Scout with the wagons flame those elves. Assault T2. Megamek (warlord) stays with loota wago giving S&P so move and shoot w full BS. Tankbustas scout up and pop a target for FBx2. Mek on bike hides behind wall of Av14 awarding 5++ to all within 6".


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gak. ONE mega mek... naked.
ONE biker mek w KFF. adjust for your meta. A start at least.

That list seems solid for Kill points and eternal, but I don't see how it'll function when it comes to Maelstrom missions. And I only get one Formation, so Bully Boyz + Blitz Brigade is a no go.

I've never been a fan of MegaNobz. Not to mention a Wraithknight will wreck their gak in melee. Another beef I have with the list is a lack of expendable units (the grots dont count because they dont have the speed to die where I need them to die). And Ork Horde doesn't allow Deep Strike, that's Ghazghkul detachment you're thinking of.

I know wagons aren't the most economical unit on the table, but I feel like they are definitely able to swing above their weight. And just that *threat* can keep MEQs in line or draw fire to them instead of one of my trukks.

I like lootas in theory, but on the table they rarely seem to pull their weight. They're best at AA, but Dakkajets do it better.

Speaking of AA, how will this list deal with any sort of Flying Circus? Daemon circus or Skyblight will ignore pretty much the entire army, get rear shots on the wagons, and leave meganobz sitting useless in the middle of nowhere.

Small, elite ork armies are appealing on paper, but in practice it's wishful thinking, I believe. I don't think this list will work, at least not in my meta. And even if it did, it's illegal for the tourney outline, unfortunately.

+++ Bully Boyz. (2003pts) +++

++ Orks: Codex (2014) (Formation Detachment) ++

+ Formation +

"Ghazghkull's Bullyboyz"
Meganobz [Boss Meganob w/ Killsaws, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha]
Trukk [Big Shoota]
Meganobz [Boss Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha]
Trukk [Big Shoota]
Meganobz [Boss Meganob w/ Killsaws, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha, Meganob w/ Kombi- Skorcha]
Trukk [Big Shoota]

++ Orks: Codex (2014) (Ork Horde Detachment) ++

+ HQ +

Big Mek
Mega Armour [Kustom Force Field, Kustom Mega-blasta]

Big Mek [Warbike]
Basic Ork Armour [Choppa, Kustom Force Field]

Warboss [Bosspole]
Mega Armour [Power Klaw, Twin-linked Shoota]

+ Elites +

Tankbustas [5x Tankbusta]

+ Troops +

Gretchin [10x Gretchin]
Runtherd [Grabba stik]

Gretchin [10x Gretchin]
Runtherd [Grabba stik]

Gretchin [10x Gretchin]
Runtherd [Grabba stik]

+ Fast Attack +

Dakkajet [Flyboss, 3x Twin-linked Supa Shoota]

Dakkajet [Flyboss, 3x Twin-linked Supa Shoota]

Deffkoptas
Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]
Deffkopta [Twin-linked Rokkit Launcha]

+ Heavy Support +

Battlewagon [Reinforced Ram, Rokkit Launcha]

Battlewagon [Reinforced Ram, Rokkit Launcha]

Lootas [7x Loota]



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Couldnt resist. Understamfd you wont like it.... no worries. Just my twist.