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Was every Primarch a psyker and if so, what were their powers?

Not all of them.

Magnus- pretty much a master of everything

Sanguinius- flight, and some divination/ telepathic tendencies, but not a proper psyker

Lorgar- Early on, uncontrolled divination- later, telepathy, teletkinesis, daemonology.


Russ- Telepathic wolf howl, basically psychic shriek

Fulgrim- none, later when he sided with chaos, picked up some telekinesis.


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Corax - invisibility

Lorgar's psychic powers were awakened during the Drop Site Massacre, IIRC.

Curze had uncontrolled divination as well - visions of the future no less.

Lorgar's later powers came from warp sorcery, not psychic powers. I'm not sure what the difference is but the books make it a clear distinction.

I think Mortarian had some too, but he refused to use them as he hated sorcery. After witnessing the power of Chaos though, he resolved to master his psychic powers instead in order to use it against sorcerers. Not sure how far he got before he turned into a Daemon and was gifted powers that way.

A few bits on Sanguinius

Virtues of the Sons by Andy Smillie
Horus speaks to me then the way I address my own captains: any sense of brotherhood hidden behind a mask of purpose and responsibility. ‘What is troubling you, Sanguinius?’

‘Nothing,’ I lie.

I tell him nothing of my visions, nothing of the Emperor’s palace burning with unnatural fire. I do not speak of my nightmares, or of the fear that my Legion will drown in its own cursed blood. What would I say? I cannot envisage any foe that could threaten Holy Terra, nor any catalyst that could send my sons as one into madness.

Index Astartes: Blood Angels
It is known that Sanguinius was gifted with the power of foretelling, able to see visions of what lay ahead. His soul was pure, and the prophesies he spoke of inevitably came to be. It can thus be surmised that he knew full well he was going to his doom when he confronted the Warmaster, and yet he went without hesitation.

 disdamn wrote:
Lorgar's later powers came from warp sorcery, not psychic powers. I'm not sure what the difference is but the books make it a clear distinction.

Sorcery is "magic" in the fantasy sense, and does not require an active psyker-gene to learn and use. Psychic powers are a genetic trait, requiring said gene to be active.

Did The Lion or The Kharn have any psychic powers of any kind?

Khorne hates Psykers, so neither Kharn nor Angron have Sorcerous or Psychic gifts.

In some books (Thousand Sons) it seems that the line between sorcery and psychic power is blurry. It seems to be more a question of the rituals used and the source of the power than the actual effects produced. It also appears that you DO need the innate psyker ability to advance far in Sorcery.

It does seem that being a sorcerer, opening yourself to Chaos, greatly enhances whatever psychic abilities you already have. Unless you're dedicated to Khorne of course, in which case you don't give a flying feth about such things.

Think of Sorcery as The Dark Side. It's the quicker, easier but ultimately corrupting path to power. But if you have no potential to begin with...?

Of course, this changes from author to author and book to book. I'd be curious to see what sources suggest you do not need any psychic ability to become a sorcerer.

Neither the Lion or Khan have been recorded as having any psychic powers. Khan was one of the founders of the librarius however.

I think they all had some psychic ability, even if only very subtle. For example, Perturabo was able to psychically sense the eye of terror (the regular humans around him couldn't).

Khan was one of the founders of the librarius however.

Khan didn't have any psychic abilities that we know of, but he had a lot of exposure to the shamans of Chogoris, who had a fairly advanced understanding of the warp. He understood that messing around with psychic powers too freely was dangerous as hell.

Warboss Gorhack wrote:
In some books (Thousand Sons) it seems that the line between sorcery and psychic power is blurry. It seems to be more a question of the rituals used and the source of the power than the actual effects produced. It also appears that you DO need the innate psyker ability to advance far in Sorcery.

It does seem that being a sorcerer, opening yourself to Chaos, greatly enhances whatever psychic abilities you already have. Unless you're dedicated to Khorne of course, in which case you don't give a flying feth about such things.

Think of Sorcery as The Dark Side. It's the quicker, easier but ultimately corrupting path to power. But if you have no potential to begin with...?

Of course, this changes from author to author and book to book. I'd be curious to see what sources suggest you do not need any psychic ability to become a sorcerer.

Dark Heresy: Radical's Handbook is the one that comes most-readily to mind, as it's the one I've accessed most recently.

I think it's mentioned somewhere that the Khan is able to summon storms but whether this is true or not it doesn't say. I've not read it being used by him.

Mortarion seems to be able to use shadows to not be seen. In Flight of the Eisentstein Garro mentions that although they hadn't seen the Death lord he had been all the time. In A Thousand Sons he seems to appear from within the shadow of a Titan to accost Magnus before Nikaea.

-Magnus is probably the second most powerful Psyker every to have lived, behind only the Emperor
-Sanguinius is mentioned as having some kind of psychic foresight, which the Blood Angels' sanguinary priests share
-Lorgar had psychic powers, but was not as powerful as Magnus. He did not fully unleash his spychic power until he fought Corax at the drop site massacre
-Curze had psychic foresight and foresaw that the Emperor would kill him upon meeting him
-Corax is a bit different, while it is sometimes implied that his unnatural stealth skills came from a kind of psychic power that he had hidden from his sons, it is also implied that Corax's skills came from the fact that he was a pariah or even that he was just that unnaturally talented in the art of stealth

Humies and physic powas. Da Orkz don need dem stinkin fings. WAAAAGH!

Ghazkull has spoken.
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Its not a stretch to say they all had a psyker gene (Considering their base DNA is the Emprah) in them, but whether they knew it was there or it was active is another question.