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For example if I were running 3 vindicators they can shoot at separate targets since they are part of a formation not a squadron correct? They just have to be 6" of each other for the special rules correct?

Correct. They are not one squadron and are separate units, and must follow the requirements for the formation's rules to gain the relevant benefits.

 Mr. Shine wrote:
Correct. They are not one squadron and are separate units, and must follow the requirements for the formation's rules to gain the relevant benefits.

Actually the answer is 'it depends'. Vindicators (and most other Space Marine armored vehicles) are now purchasable in squadrons of 1-3 vehicles. If you were to purchase them as a squadron, then they remain a squadron in the formation and are only 1 of the 3-5 required units (Vindicators, Predators or Whirlwinds). You could also purchase 3 individual Vindicators and have your minimum required 3 units.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Mr. Shine wrote:
Correct. They are not one squadron and are separate units, and must follow the requirements for the formation's rules to gain the relevant benefits.

Actually the answer is 'it depends'. Vindicators (and most other Space Marine armored vehicles) are now purchasable in squadrons of 1-3 vehicles. If you were to purchase them as a squadron, then they remain a squadron in the formation and are only 1 of the 3-5 required units (Vindicators, Predators or Whirlwinds). You could also purchase 3 individual Vindicators and have your minimum required 3 units.

That I knew. It'll say additional may be taken for X amount of points. Those would be squads but I was curious about the Armoured Task Force formation.

Thank you both for your time to answer!

ZooPants wrote:
That I knew. It'll say additional may be taken for X amount of points. Those would be squads but I was curious about the Armoured Task Force formation.

Which are taken from the same datasheets. A unit of Vindicators is the same regardless of whether it is in a detachment or formation.

 Ghaz wrote:

ZooPants wrote:
That I knew. It'll say additional may be taken for X amount of points. Those would be squads but I was curious about the Armoured Task Force formation.

Which are taken from the same datasheets. A unit of Vindicators is the same regardless of whether it is in a detachment or formation.

The datasheet says I can get up to three. The formation says 3-5 In any combination. So can they our can't they shoot st different targets?!

ZooPants wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

ZooPants wrote:
That I knew. It'll say additional may be taken for X amount of points. Those would be squads but I was curious about the Armoured Task Force formation.

Which are taken from the same datasheets. A unit of Vindicators is the same regardless of whether it is in a detachment or formation.

The datasheet says I can get up to three. The formation says 3-5 In any combination. So can they our can't they shoot st different targets?!

The datasheet of Vindicators says you can have up to 3 for the unit. The Formation says you can take 3-5 units.

So, you can have 3-15 Vindicators being able to fire at 3-5 targets (due to being 3-5 units).

Who needs Fortifications. Good thing they can't get Fists Tactics...

ZooPants wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

ZooPants wrote:
That I knew. It'll say additional may be taken for X amount of points. Those would be squads but I was curious about the Armoured Task Force formation.

Which are taken from the same datasheets. A unit of Vindicators is the same regardless of whether it is in a detachment or formation.

The datasheet says I can get up to three. The formation says 3-5 In any combination. So can they our can't they shoot st different targets?!

The formation says you can take 3-5 units, with each unit consisting of 1-3 vehicles. So again, it depends on how you take your three Vindicators. Did you take them as one unit of three Vindicators or three units of one Vindicator each?

ZooPants wrote:
For example if I were running 3 vindicators they can shoot at separate targets since they are part of a formation not a squadron correct? They just have to be 6" of each other for the special rules correct?

Your Formation allows you to bring 3 (or more) Vindicators units, each of them can fire independendly as normal - being part of a Formation doesn't make you behave like a unit or similar - so all you'll wanna do is keep them within 6 inches of their Tech Marine.

Each Vindicators unit consists of 1 to 3 Vindicators, which are a squadron and therefore must shoot basically as one unit. If you bring three in one squadron, you can benefit from their squadron rule Linebreaker Bombardment.

Examples of valid ATF formations:

1 unit of Vindicators, consisting of 1 Vindicator
1 unit of Vindicators, consisting of 1 Vindicator
1 unit of Vindicators, consisting of 1 Vindicator
1 Tech Marine
---
None of your Vindicators can use Linebreaker Bombardment, but it is a valid selection

1 unit of Vindicators, consisting of 3 Vindicators
1 unit of Predators, consisting of 1 Predator
1 unit of Whirlwinds, consisting of 2 Whirlwinds
1 unit of Vindicators, consisting of 1 Vindicator
1 Tech Marine
---
Also legal, and the first unit of Vindicators can use Linebreaker Bombardment. The other (solo) Vindicator cannot, and both the Whirlwinds and the Predators are also unable to benefit from their max squadron rules (Suppressive Bombardment and Killshot)

nekooni wrote:

ZooPants wrote:
For example if I were running 3 vindicators they can shoot at separate targets since they are part of a formation not a squadron correct? They just have to be 6" of each other for the special rules correct?

Your Formation allows you to bring 3 (or more) Vindicators units, each of them can fire independendly as normal - being part of a Formation doesn't make you behave like a unit or similar - so all you'll wanna do is keep them within 6 inches of their Tech Marine.

Each Vindicators unit consists of 1 to 3 Vindicators, which are a squadron and therefore must shoot basically as one unit. If you bring three in one squadron, you can benefit from their squadron rule Linebreaker Bombardment.

Examples of valid ATF formations:

1 unit of Vindicators, consisting of 1 Vindicator
1 unit of Vindicators, consisting of 1 Vindicator
1 unit of Vindicators, consisting of 1 Vindicator
1 Tech Marine
---
None of your Vindicators can use Linebreaker Bombardment, but it is a valid selection

1 unit of Vindicators, consisting of 3 Vindicators
1 unit of Predators, consisting of 1 Predator
1 unit of Whirlwinds, consisting of 2 Whirlwinds
1 unit of Vindicators, consisting of 1 Vindicator
1 Tech Marine
---
Also legal, and the first unit of Vindicators can use Linebreaker Bombardment. The other (solo) Vindicator cannot, and both the Whirlwinds and the Predators are also unable to benefit from their max squadron rules (Suppressive Bombardment and Killshot)

This is a fantastic explanation!! Thank you so very much!!

I took them as single units. Which sucks that I can't use line breaker