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Would this be legal:

ADL strung out in a straight line parallel to deployment zone.

An Ammo Dump 1" thick in front of that that runs the entire length of the ADL plus just under 6" to either side since it has to be wholly within 6" of the fortification.

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The top line is the ammo dump modeled however granting 5+ cover with ADL behind it granting 4+ cover.

Legal? Cheese? There are no specs on dimensions of the ammo dump.

Separate of that, could you spread the ADL's out with 12" gaps between sections and still have one long dump?

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Thanks,
PipeAlley

There isn't a rule, so technically any form and size of the ammo dump is "legal".

But If you actually tried that most people will tell you that you can bring any length of ammo dump as long as you can fit it where the sun don't shine without trouble. Laterally.

So yes, I'd consider it cheese / modelling for advantage and ask you to replace it with something more sensible in dimensions.

nekooni wrote:
There isn't a rule, so technically any form and size of the ammo dump is "legal".

But If you actually tried that most people will tell you that you can bring any length of ammo dump as long as you can fit it where the sun don't shine without trouble. Laterally.

So yes, I'd consider it cheese / modelling for advantage and ask you to replace it with something more sensible in dimensions.

Thank you for your quick and honest reply.

Aren't there rules about minimum distance between pieces of terrain?

There have been separate YMDC's about the ADL in the past and according to Stronghold Assault "each section must be in contact with at least one other section." So other have argued you could have upto 4 two-section parts in various places in your deployment zone.

This is what the Forge World Imperial Guard Ammo Dump looked like.

I would think that this is what the rules writers had in mind, but I honestly can't speak towards RAI.

Gw sells the ammo dump model. It's 1 inch sq. It's in the battfield debris pack...

 foto69man wrote:
Gw sells the ammo dump model. It's 1 inch sq. It's in the battfield debris pack...

Battlefield Accessories is the name. However, I haven't seen any claim that this is the "Official Ammo Dump" model. It's just a terrain piece. At least the picture I posted is called an Ammo Dump.

Raw: No size is mentioned but the 6th edition rulebook had max dimensions of a terrain piece and you are exceeding those . ( not sure if 7th still does that not going to take the effort to look into that)

There is some context.
-Cities of death Stratagems sizes: ~Terminator - dread base
-Stronghold assault: Other items in the same category are.
Comm relays and the gun emplacement. Both are smaller then then a dread base.

Obstacles are other fortification upgrades they are 6" a piece. You are trying to sneak in a better and cheaper obstacle with a larger footprint. This is clearly not RAI

How I would rule it. Anything large then a dread base is modelling for advantage in a competitive game, anything larger then 6" I would refuse to recognise as a suitable model in any game.
If you would try to pull this on me in a casual game I would politely ask you to replace your barricades with an actual ammo dump model. If you refused I would be less likely to play with you in the future.

Sounds good: possibly legal but 100% cheese.

You are not reading my post at all. This isn't legal but cheesy Stronghold assault is written to be an extension of the 6th edition rules that had max terrain sizes, you are violating those. Making it dubious at best for this reason alone..
On top of that this is clearly modelling for advantage and will not be allowed any game you play. Don't waste your time building a 1"x~30+" model that is a nightmare to transport and nobody will accept.

 oldzoggy wrote:
This isn't legal but cheesy Stronghold assault is written to be an extension of the 6th edition rules...

...and as soon as the game being played became 7th edition that stopped being relevant to actual rules legality.

Agreed though it certainly seems to be modelling for advantage at least.

If you do want to go in this way might I suggest some other additions to your army.

This could be a looted wagon.






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And it might be a good idea to build an "swamp based" army inspired on this wfb skink conversion.



At least you will have some nice models on your shelf if you build those.

Your ammo dump can be longer than your ADL: wholly within 6" just means that no part of it can extend beyond 6" from the furthest point of the ADL in relation.

If you had a 6" line of ADL you can have a very nearly 18" long ammo dump by raw.

Should you? No.

Many threads about vague RAW show up and seriously: Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. This is what TFG means.