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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/19 16:28:45
Subject: Life in the Eye of Terror
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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I have been reading some stuff about the Iron Warriors (namely the Iron Warriors Omnibus and some others) and a lot of the descriptions of daemon worlds and the rest are, well really weird. I get that's the point, but like in the novella Skull Harvest, the world they are on (in the Maelstrom, basically it's New Badab, the Red Corsaris base of operations) the world seems like it's something out of Mad Max; a post-apoc type world where all sorts of scum and villainy are there, they have marketplaces where aliens and stuff hawk their wares, they have a seedy bar that they are in with other ruffians, and in general it seems to stand out of place with things, it seems more something out of Battletech in some backwater planet where mercenary companies flock.
Then, in the Omnibus there's a short story that describes Medrengard being like this insane place with a stark white sky with a black sun, and what is described as a daemonic locomotive and earth soaked with blood that has hungry corpses or something in it.
I get Chaos is weird as feth, but like is there any sort of generic type of description of how these worlds often are? The fluff seems to indicate that humans can and do live on worlds in the warp, and that not every world in the warp is some daemon infested wasteland but like actual worlds (although most of them seem to be dead/dying worlds). That entire part just feels way out of place compared to the rest of 40k, and I can't figure out why. Like imagining a group of Chaos marines sitting in a seedy bar drinking grog, surrounded by scoundrels and mutants and other n'eer-do-wells, or walking through an outside bazaar past mutants selling trinkets and baubles just sounds far-fetched even by 40k standards.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/19 16:33:48
Subject: Life in the Eye of Terror
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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The worlds are described to be shaped by either the gods, the daemons that inhabit it, or the lord of the world, so there's no "set" description; one world can be a perfect mimicry of an Imperial City and the planet right next door can look like Nurgle's butthole. Or a giant boob. Such is the nature of the warp. The only thing consistent is that notions like "Continuity", "time" and "relativity" are mere (rarely followed) guidelines rather than laws.
Oh and Daemons. Lots of Daemons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/20 10:04:12
Subject: Life in the Eye of Terror
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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"Daemon World" by Ben Counter and "Talon of Horus" by ADB give good insight into a "normal" life in the Eye. Check them out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/20 10:22:20
Subject: Re:Life in the Eye of Terror
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Seconding Talon of Horus.
Siege of Castellax is an example of a world run by Chaos Marines (IW) but not in the warp. Overall, I doubt that the average person in the warp would have a much better lifestyle than the humans there. However they are most likely insane, so that's something?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/20 10:22:33
Subject: Life in the Eye of Terror
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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I'd also recommend picking up the Black Crusade supplements, as they go into great detail regarding life in the Screaming Vortex, a smaller but similar warp storm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/20 10:48:32
Subject: Life in the Eye of Terror
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Battleship Captain
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Definitely Black Crusade and Talon of Horus.
and yes, there are worlds which are....well, none of them are "normal" but at least not "screaming daemonic hell because reasons"
The Screaming Vortex has plenty of mad-max-esque merc worlds and trading posts. Q'Sal isn't a bad place as long as you know what the laws (currently) are prior to visiting; clean, well tended gardens, geometrically impossible but aesthetically pleasing architecture.....
Sacgrave and the Ragged Helix are both essentially Tortuga but with Chaos iconography.
The Hollows is a forge world - and there are plenty of other chaos forge worlds mentioned in other sources - Xana is probably the most important.
And yes, at least one bit of art is essentially a marketplace, and at least one adventure starts with ill-advised gambling between chaos marine warbands in a bar.
The one thing you'll never have is consistency. Because all aspects of ecology and physics are subject to approval by the dominant chaos power, it's as easy to have a hive world where the hive is tunnelled out of the corpse of a giant, or a literally flat world whose edge you can fall off, or a world around the inside of a shell around another world....that if you reach the smaller world looks like it's a shell around the first world. Or a world of caverns that are essentially the maws of giant sarlacc-esque monsters - but trying to hide inside their jaws is safer than being exposed to the plasma blizzards on the surface. Predatory shadows. Predatory bad dreams. Predatory bad dreams hunted and tamed by dark eldar beastmasters (who'll trade good money for the spoor of especially vicious ones!). It could be anything - except safe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/20 13:10:32
Subject: Life in the Eye of Terror
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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I have Talon of Horus, might have to re-read that part.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/20 18:26:07
Subject: Life in the Eye of Terror
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Atlas Infernal goes over a couple of worlds in the Eye as well, as I recall. There's this strange Black Market on one of them which is really cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/20 20:51:58
Subject: Life in the Eye of Terror
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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I do kind of like the fact a lot are closer to fringe worlds where all sorts of villainous scum hide out, and not always just daemon infested hell-worlds where reality is ignored and like water flows upwards just because or trees grow skulls instead of fruit.
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- Wayne
Formerly WayneTheGame |
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