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So here are two lists I am trying to choose between, a Raptor themed Black Legion Speartip or a mostly Assault marine Raven Guard list. I would like advice on how to make the lists stronger, but also on which of the two lists is stronger.
Raven Guard List 1847pts
Raven Guard Chapter Tactics
Bladewing Assault Brotherhood
Captain: Raven's Fury, Artificer Armor, Swiftstrike and Murder, Iron Halo
4x Assault Squads: 5x marines, Jump Packs, 2x Flamers
Vanguard Veteran Squad: Sgt w/ Bolt Pistol, Power Sword, 2x Veterans w/ Twin Lightning Claws, 2x Veterans w/ Storm Shield and Power Fist
Skyhammer Annihilation Force
2x Assault Marines: Sgt w/ Meltabomb, 2x BP/Chainsword Marines, 2x Flamers, Jump Packs
Dev Squad: Drop Pod, Sgt Meltabomb, 4x Grav Cannons and Amps
Dev Squad: Drop Pod, Sgt Meltabomb, Armorium Cherub, 4x Multi-Meltas
Speartip Strike
Landspeeder: Heavy Bolter, Typhoon Missile Launcher
2x Bike Squads: 3x Bikes, 2x Grav-Guns
Speartip Strike
Landspeeder: Heavy Bolter, Typhoon Missile Launcher
2x Bike Squads: Sgt w/ Combi-Melta, 2x Meltaguns
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Black Legion Speartip 1850
The Hounds of Abaddon
Chaos Lord: Jump Pack, Aura of Dark Glory, Mark of Khorne, Power Sword, Combi-Melta, VotlW
Chaos Space Marines: 5x Marines, 5x CCW, Mark of Khorne, VotlW
Khorne Berserkers: 5x man, 4x Chainaxes, VotlW
3x Raptor Squads: Mark of Khorne, Icon of Wrath, 2x Meltaguns, VotlW
Raptor Talon
Chaos Lord: Jump Pack, Power Sword, Combi-Plasma, VotlW
3x Raptor Squads: Mark of Khorne, Icon of Wrath, 2x Flamers, VotlW
Terminator Annihilation Force
Abaddon the Despoiler
2x Terminator Squads: 3x Terminators w/ Combi-Melta, Power Fist, Mark of Nurgle
Terminator Squad: 3x Terminators w/ Combi-Bolters, Power Sword, Mark of Nurgle
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