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2017/01/13 22:03:49
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
Boston
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I'm sitting on some store credit from tourney wins and have been contemplating either the Sf or the striker
Neither seems to have any "must have" cards, but I'm looking to change up my double Defender playstyle after the upcoming regionals in a couple of weeks.
The striker, honestly, seems like it could be the more "fun to fly" option, but I've started seeing Quickdraw and Back draft in some relatively competitive lists.
So which way would you jump?
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2017/01/14 12:30:35
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Battleship Captain
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The TIE/sf is actually a bit better in light of the striker - lightweight frame is probably best suited to the special forces TIE - it's agile enough to actually do something with an extra green die, expensive enough to justify 2 points on a slight toughness boost, and doesn't have an auto-choice modification like guidance chips. Ive seen wired, primed thrusters, collision detector, lightweight frame backdraft do really well over the last couple of weeks. In a dense debris field, he's a decent alternative to a defender.
The striker is just okay - VI duchess is essentially a budget version of a PTL interceptor ace for maneuverability - but lacks the dice modifiers to cope with highly accurate turrets. If you see mostly fighters, ghosts and YV666s, it should do okay, but that may be wishful thinking.
Her main thing is putting another 20-26 point "pocket ace" in theimperial arsenal (alongside omega and zeta leaders), which might be uuseful if needing to save points (taking a decimator or upsilon as a support ship, for example.
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Termagants expended for the Hive Mind: ~2835
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2017/01/14 14:20:15
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Charing Cold One Knight
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I think the main issue with the Striker is it's generics. They all seem one point too expensive. It won't stop me from running five of them, but I don't expect them to perform as well as my other lists, I just like the way they look.
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2017/01/14 17:15:21
Subject: Re:Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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I actually had a game against two of them, countdown and pure sabbac, they preformed very well, the boost before movement made then slippery, they aren't the best ships or anything, but it was a really fun game.
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Shadowrun is the best game ever. It's the only thing I have ever played in which I have jumped out of a shot out van with a chainsaw to cut a flying drone in half before leveling a building with ANFO assisted by a troll, a dwarf, an elf, and a wizard. |
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2017/01/14 19:35:18
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
Boston
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I'm kinda thinking about a striker or two in support of a Phantom (whisper or Echo) with intel agent.
Lots of ability to adjust to enemy maneuvers there...
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2017/01/15 22:49:19
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Charing Cold One Knight
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Well, I used a list of five of them twice today. The first game was against Bossk and two Protectorate Starfighters. I didn't lose a ship this game, and didn't feel that is was a disadvantage having all of my ships PS3 and shooting last. Using an evade action at the end of their movement unless a focus action was clearly better let them survive quite well.
The second game was Fenn Rau, Kavil and two M3-A's. Lost two of the Strikers, killed all the opponents ships. I haven't tried the Unique pilots yet because they really don't interest me too much. The PS3 generics did well for me both games, I look forward to more testing of them. Not as lackluster as I originally thought.
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2017/01/15 23:04:13
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Missionary On A Mission
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A mate of mine has been running a 5 ship build of them with some success
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Lothlorien: 3500pts
Rohan: 1500pts
Serpent: 2000pts
Modor: 1500pts |
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2017/01/21 16:31:18
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Am I missing something about them? 5 ships in a list puts them at 20 a pop at PS3. If they are shooting last anyways, why not run 5 Chihuahuas with crackshot, a better dial, and shields? Or even 5 ps1 alpha squadron interceptors with autothrusters. Better dial, always havevthay 3rd die, autothrusters for added defense, all at the cost of 1 hull.
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2017/01/21 16:39:13
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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New hawtness. Pre-move moves. Players who are die-hard Imperial fans...
Do all choices have to make logical sense?
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2017/01/21 19:54:37
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Charing Cold One Knight
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I haven't felt handicapped in the PS department. Yeah, they are new, and there are better ships, but that pre move has made them very unpredictable to my opponents. It has made people wonder where they are going to end up, and has allowed me to enjoy a fantastic blocking game. Since they generally move first, they almost always get their action.
And not all choices need to be logical while gaming haha, I like the Striker since it bring something to Imperials that I don't get to experience with other Imperial ships. I only use Imperials, no First Order, just some of the upgrades from those ships since I like the uniformity of the Imperial paint scheme that can be achieved. Which is why I went out of my way to get all of my TIE Fighters to be the Gozanti Assault Carrier ones. All of my Interceptors are ever flown with ace pilots, and the ships have the red stripe from the Imperial Aces pack. All my TIE Advanceds are from the Raider. And all of the stuff from multiple Imperial Veterans boxes has been traded off because I didn't want to run ships that wouldn't be the same color as the others, just wanted the titles and pilots. I play X-Wing just for fun, and I like to have fun collecting it as well.
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2017/01/21 19:58:50
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Noise Marine Terminator with Sonic Blaster
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Mr ghoti wrote:Am I missing something about them? 5 ships in a list puts them at 20 a pop at PS3. If they are shooting last anyways, why not run 5 Chihuahuas with crackshot, a better dial, and shields? Or even 5 ps1 alpha squadron interceptors with autothrusters. Better dial, always havevthay 3rd die, autothrusters for added defense, all at the cost of 1 hull.
Chihuahuas?
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2017/01/21 20:44:28
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Charing Cold One Knight
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Green Squadron A-Wings with Autothrusters, the title, Adaptability, Crack Shot and Chardaan Refit.
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2017/01/21 23:41:15
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Missionary On A Mission
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So i may of mentioned a 5 ship build the other day and do you want to know something?
We had our monthly tournament yesterday and the bugger came in 3rd... he ran Sabac and 4 ps3 pilots, all with the ailerons and no light frames. The thing that i think people are starting to forget is they put out the same firepower as an interceptor, agreed not as manueorvable, and have a slightly better hull at the expense of an agi. But also think of this you have a minimum of 15 shots coming at you each turn. I played him in the third round with my Palp, Jax, Stele list and i only managed to take down three and the game was done in 6 turns. Just the sheer number of shots is staggering.
So i would suggest giving it a crack before discounting as a viable list.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/01/21 23:42:11
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Lothlorien: 3500pts
Rohan: 1500pts
Serpent: 2000pts
Modor: 1500pts |
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2017/01/22 04:20:27
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Douglas Bader
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captain bloody fists wrote:The thing that i think people are starting to forget is they put out the same firepower as an interceptor, agreed not as manueorvable, and have a slightly better hull at the expense of an agi.
And this is why they suck in a swarm. A five-interceptor swarm is at least as good, if not better, and has zero presence in the competitive meta. If they had been a point cheaper so that you could take six the swarm would be interesting, but as it is it's just a bad list.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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2017/01/22 06:15:39
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Or perhaps if lightweight frame wasn't so expensive. I honestly expected it to be free or a negative cost, forcing a critical damage like with the new m3a title. That way you could feasibly run a wall of them with howlrunner for an even more effective swarm. Come to think of it, 4 interceptors and howlrunner is still more power than my standard swarm. Albeit without the ever important crack shots.
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2017/01/22 11:35:38
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Missionary On A Mission
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Peregrine wrote: captain bloody fists wrote:The thing that i think people are starting to forget is they put out the same firepower as an interceptor, agreed not as manueorvable, and have a slightly better hull at the expense of an agi.
And this is why they suck in a swarm. A five-interceptor swarm is at least as good, if not better, and has zero presence in the competitive meta. If they had been a point cheaper so that you could take six the swarm would be interesting, but as it is it's just a bad list.
So even though it can beat the commonwealth defenders list it's not worth running? That to me just sounds stupid...
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Lothlorien: 3500pts
Rohan: 1500pts
Serpent: 2000pts
Modor: 1500pts |
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2017/01/22 15:57:06
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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I thought Commonwealth Defenders was Palp-Ryad-Vessery?
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2017/01/22 22:21:29
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Missionary On A Mission
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Lothlorien: 3500pts
Rohan: 1500pts
Serpent: 2000pts
Modor: 1500pts |
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2017/01/23 00:36:30
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Douglas Bader
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captain bloody fists wrote:So even though it can beat the commonwealth defenders list it's not worth running? That to me just sounds stupid...
I'll concede this point when it beats the list consistently, in a match between equally-skilled players. Even bad lists can win occasionally with a good player and/or fluke dice luck. But I seriously doubt that a list which is nothing more than a subtle tweak on a garbage-tier list with zero presence in the competitive meta is going to get those consistent wins.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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2017/01/23 05:03:42
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Missionary On A Mission
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Peregrine wrote: captain bloody fists wrote:So even though it can beat the commonwealth defenders list it's not worth running? That to me just sounds stupid...
I'll concede this point when it beats the list consistently, in a match between equally-skilled players. Even bad lists can win occasionally with a good player and/or fluke dice luck. But I seriously doubt that a list which is nothing more than a subtle tweak on a garbage-tier list with zero presence in the competitive meta is going to get those consistent wins.
alright so if he takes Regionals would you then reconsider?
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Lothlorien: 3500pts
Rohan: 1500pts
Serpent: 2000pts
Modor: 1500pts |
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2017/01/23 05:47:52
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Douglas Bader
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Yes, but he isn't going to.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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2017/01/23 05:57:54
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Missionary On A Mission
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We shall see...
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Lothlorien: 3500pts
Rohan: 1500pts
Serpent: 2000pts
Modor: 1500pts |
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2017/01/23 16:03:59
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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Anyone care to place wagers/makes sure the match is recorded?
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2017/01/23 17:58:08
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Huge Hierodule
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50 Republic Credits on the Bird.
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Q: What do you call a Dinosaur Handpuppet?
A: A Maniraptor |
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2017/01/23 22:24:51
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Missionary On A Mission
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i shall happily post the results from the regionals when they happen
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Lothlorien: 3500pts
Rohan: 1500pts
Serpent: 2000pts
Modor: 1500pts |
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2017/01/23 22:38:43
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
Boston
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Which regionals?
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2017/01/23 22:39:35
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Missionary On A Mission
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Brisbane Queenlsand AUS held next month
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Lothlorien: 3500pts
Rohan: 1500pts
Serpent: 2000pts
Modor: 1500pts |
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2017/01/24 01:50:23
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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Republic credits' a-no good here.
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2017/01/24 02:08:17
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Rochester, MN
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Republic credits will do fine
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2017/01/24 02:29:40
Subject: Anybody had success with TIE Strikers yet?
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Charing Cold One Knight
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Hahaha, well played DanielBeaver.
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