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2017/03/14 19:23:23
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Topic, including conscriptz??
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" $@#& YOU! There are 3 things I want in a guy: Tall, Handsome, and plays Dark Eldar!"-every woman since
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2017/03/14 21:12:33
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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100-200 would be your ideal.
What you really want to ask is how many tanks is too many?
Answer: you can never have enough IG tanks.
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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2017/03/14 21:39:18
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I frequently field about 100 dudes. There's not really a thing that's to many guardsmen. I gotta say though transportation (espescially Valkyries...) and deployment are a bit of a hassle, and when dudes die it's not so easy to keep tack of who goes where. 10+ squads with diffrent weapon combos becomes quite the hassle to sort in the death pile. It can easily slow down tournaments. These are minor details though, because there's nothing quite like conquering the enginered super human psyker monsters with regular dudes desperatly fighting as hard as they can. Guards are just awesome.
I'd say after 150 dudes deployment becomes an issue but 'cept for that go nuts.
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His pattern of returning alive after being declared dead occurred often enough during Cain's career that the Munitorum made a special ruling that Ciaphas Cain is to never be considered dead, despite evidence to the contrary. |
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2017/03/14 22:07:35
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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mrhappyface wrote:100-200 would be your ideal.
What you really want to ask is how many tanks is too many?
Answer: you can never have enough IG tanks.
I have 0 tanks in my army, ah!
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2017/03/14 22:22:56
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I can answer this in one letter.
∞
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2017/03/14 22:23:12
Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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2017/03/14 23:16:30
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Dakka Veteran
South Portsmouth, KY USA
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You needz allz the guardzmans all the times.
All of them.
Now.
Any less numbaz is the looz.
No gruardsmenz is not allowed ever.
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Armies: Space Marines, IG, Tyranids, Eldar, Necrons, Orks, Dark Eldar.
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2017/03/14 23:27:17
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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Bobthehero wrote: mrhappyface wrote:100-200 would be your ideal.
What you really want to ask is how many tanks is too many?
Answer: you can never have enough IG tanks.
I have 0 tanks in my army, ah!
What kind of heretical guard army do you have!?
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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2017/03/14 23:29:55
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Krieg Siege list.
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2017/03/14 23:31:09
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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Ah, so assume you have more than enough artillery to make up for the lack of tanks?
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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2017/03/14 23:40:15
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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mrhappyface wrote:100-200 would be your ideal.
What you really want to ask is how many tanks is too many?
Answer: you can never have enough IG tanks.
This times 1000.
The more IG armor you have, the better.
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2017/03/14 23:50:27
Subject: Re:How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Human Auxiliary to the Empire
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I have a friend who loves fodder and planned a list. I talked him down from 450 to 392 including Commissars. The list genuinely frightens me since anything built for MEQ,TEQ,or vehicles has a low shot count unless it's a template. A take all comers list would suffer from the endless tarpitting speedbumping hordes. It would be worse if Chenkov was still a thing.
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2017/03/15 00:59:01
Subject: Re:How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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I have over 90+ armored units (or they are considered "vehciles") in mine.
Can't have enough.
"Enough Armor" is called heresy
I havn't counted troops on the ground. But I have plenty of them. Need more Skitarii though.
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Regiment: 91st Schrott Experimental Regiment
Regiment Planet: Schrott
Specialization: Salvaged, Heavily Modified, and/or Experimental Mechanized Units.
"SIR! Are you sure this will work!?"
"I HAVE NO IDEA, PULL THE TRIGGER!!!" 91st comms chatter. |
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2017/03/15 02:18:05
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Graham McNeil
pep lec'h ha neplec'h
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I've been running about 225 infantrymen in my Cadian Battlegroup lately but honestly once you get to about 150 you start really running out of real estate on the table if you have anything like the correct amount of terrain and the list itself is pretty subpar. I've been thinking about switching to a Castellans list for that sweet respawning but there's so much firepower out there that I think it'll still struggle to be competitive.
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2017/03/15 04:27:19
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Lady of the Lake
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∞ x2
Is the ideal amount of guardsmen to bury the enemy in.
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2017/03/15 05:29:43
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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- Sir! Intelligence reports the enemy can't swim!
- Good. Drown them in bodies.
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2017/03/15 06:26:29
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Lady of the Lake
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"Sir, the enemy tanks... they hover"
"Holy Emperor how will our men clog up their tracks and halt their advance now?"
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2017/03/15 06:49:47
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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n0t_u wrote:"Sir, the enemy tanks... they hover"
"Holy Emperor how will our men clog up their tracks and halt their advance now?"
YOU PILE ON TOP OF THEM UNTIL THEIR GRAV SYSTEMS GIVE OUT AND THEY CRASH TO THE GROUND AND CONTINUE TO PILE ON UNTIL THEIR HULLS COLLAPSE!!!
OR BRING YOUR OWN GRAV TANKS
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Regiment: 91st Schrott Experimental Regiment
Regiment Planet: Schrott
Specialization: Salvaged, Heavily Modified, and/or Experimental Mechanized Units.
"SIR! Are you sure this will work!?"
"I HAVE NO IDEA, PULL THE TRIGGER!!!" 91st comms chatter. |
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2017/03/15 06:50:51
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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Exalted.
When you spend too many points you have too many.
When a TWC unit destroys something that costs more than it does you don't have enough.
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2017/03/15 08:50:03
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Emboldened Warlock
Widnes UK
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There is no upper limit on guardsmen except what you can carry to the game and the points limit. Also occasionally space in your deployment zone, I once saw a guard army have to keep a couple of squads in reserve after he realised they wouldn't all fit with the inch between them and slightly larger gaps between squads he was doing. (note this was vanguard strike so it had the smallest deployment area.)
Nerak wrote:I frequently field about 100 dudes. There's not really a thing that's to many guardsmen. I gotta say though transportation (espescially Valkyries...) and deployment are a bit of a hassle, and when dudes die it's not so easy to keep tack of who goes where. 10+ squads with diffrent weapon combos becomes quite the hassle to sort in the death pile. It can easily slow down tournaments. These are minor details though, because there's nothing quite like conquering the enginered super human psyker monsters with regular dudes desperatly fighting as hard as they can. Guards are just awesome.
I'd say after 150 dudes deployment becomes an issue but 'cept for that go nuts.
Try painting squad numbers on the bottom of their bases, that way you don't have to keep checking each weapon against your list, you just immediately know where to put each guy after looking at him for 1 second.
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2017/03/15 22:17:53
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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roflmajog wrote:
Nerak wrote:I frequently field about 100 dudes. There's not really a thing that's to many guardsmen. I gotta say though transportation (espescially Valkyries...) and deployment are a bit of a hassle, and when dudes die it's not so easy to keep tack of who goes where. 10+ squads with diffrent weapon combos becomes quite the hassle to sort in the death pile. It can easily slow down tournaments. These are minor details though, because there's nothing quite like conquering the enginered super human psyker monsters with regular dudes desperatly fighting as hard as they can. Guards are just awesome.
I'd say after 150 dudes deployment becomes an issue but 'cept for that go nuts.
Try painting squad numbers on the bottom of their bases, that way you don't have to keep checking each weapon against your list, you just immediately know where to put each guy after looking at him for 1 second.
Thanks for the tip. I just might do that.
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2017/03/15 22:20:09
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Or numbers on their shoulder pads/stripes of colors.
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2017/03/15 22:24:21
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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I divide my guardsmen into platoons based on their shoulder pad colour.
At the moment, I've never had an issue differentiating between my red, blue and yellow platoons, with black for veterans and company command squads, and I could probably afford to add more platoons and their colours as I go (grey, white, green, purple, brown, etc etc)
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2017/03/15 22:26:29
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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The answer lies in how patient your opponent is going to be waiting for you to deploy all the little bastards
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2017/03/15 22:46:07
Subject: Re:How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
Alaska
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I think that once you have enough Infantry Platoons to fill a CAD you could probably stop. So that's only 918 guardsmen.
I wouldn't say it's necessary to go double- CAD or anything like that, but it might be worth it to try to keep up with horde armies like Space Marines.
Somewhat unrelated, I figured out how many points a maxed out Infantry Platoon with all possible upgrades would be and I came up with 2791 points.
That's not counting anything from outside the platoon like Commissars or Priests or whatnot. I might not have figured it right though, I was using one of those army builder programs.
It certainly involved a lot of bad decisions, like plasma guns and missile launchers + flakk for as many people as possible, relic plating on every Chimera and krak grenades for Heavy Weapons squads. If I was made of money it would be fun to show up to an Apocalypse event with just one HQ slot and two Troops slots filled but having way over 5,000 points.
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YELL REAL LOUD AN' CARRY A BIG CHOPPA! |
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2017/03/16 01:20:20
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
What's left of Cadia
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Trick question, you can NEVER have too many Guardsmen
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TheEyeOfNight- I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes
TheEyeOfNight- "Ordo Xenos reports that the Necrons have attained democracy, kamikaze tendencies, and nuclear fission. It's all tits up, sir."
Space Marine flyers are shaped for the greatest possible air resistance so that the air may never defeat the SPACE MARINES!
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum
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2017/03/16 03:31:40
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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If you have so many Guardsmen (or any number of models really) that cause games to consistently be over 3.5 hours long that is too many.
That's a full hour longer than I want my average game to take. Outside of that, have at, Commander.
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2017/03/26 18:19:01
Subject: How many guardzmans is too many in a army?
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Raging Rat Ogre
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When the amount of Guardsmen exceeds the amount of Dakka which is equel or greater the amount of Imperial Guard Tanks ever needed, than you know you have too many Guardsmen.
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