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Hey all,

Dunno if this is the place to post this but I can't find the rules for the Space Marine Rapier Quad Mortar.

I assumed it would be in Imperial Armour Forces of Adeptus Astartes but in that there are rules on page 43 for the Rapier Carrier but only with options for a quad heavy bolter or a laser destroyer.

Anyone know where I could find the Quad Mortar rules for these? I only recently bought a bunch of them and be a shame if I couldn't actually field them!

I thought every model that previously had rules for 40k (especially in 7th) would have rules in 8th? Were these left out by accident or dropped?

Got in touch with GW/FW but I don't expect to get a reply any time soon if at all.

They don't have rules currently.

Also, they don't have rules, thank god.

 DarknessEternal wrote:
They don't have rules currently.

Also, they don't have rules, thank god.

Yeah because they were soooooooo bad.

Just proxy them as a different Mortar or as a Thunderfire, but my guess is that the rules will be in the new IA.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Yeah because they were soooooooo bad.

Dunno about that. I found them to be pretty good at clearing out large units, hordes and the like, better than the Thunderfire.

But yeah figured I'd have to use them as Thunderfire Cannons for now. Bit disappointing that for whatever reason there aren't rules for them.

Heh. Trying to bring the Phosphex Rapiers into 40K? What a move. They are bad enough in 30K. Don't need them in 40K. Though there would be more ways of dealing with them in 40K, so maybe they wouldn't be that bad...

My buddy emailed Forgeworld about space marine quad mortar rules - here's the response he got back:

Hi Tim,
Thank you for your email. The Rapier Quad Mortar is Horus Heresy only, which is why it is not in the new Index book. The text on the web store is there in error and we are having the tech guys remove it as soon as possible.

Tamwulf wrote:Heh. Trying to bring the Phosphex Rapiers into 40K? What a move.

move? No need to throw that label or insinuation at me especially as I'm not on about Phosphex Rapiers. The quad mortars in 40k never were that or had those shells (I'm assuming they're shells).
Options were str5 ap5 heavy 4 blast or str 8 ap 4 heavy 4 sunder, that's it basically. So again, no need to say I'm trying to pull a move.

Smotejob wrote:My buddy emailed Forgeworld about space marine quad mortar rules - here's the response he got back:

Hi Tim,
Thank you for your email. The Rapier Quad Mortar is Horus Heresy only, which is why it is not in the new Index book. The text on the web store is there in error and we are having the tech guys remove it as soon as possible.

Thanks for posting their reply. It's a bit odd them saying that as the quad mortar rapier was given specific 40k rules (as a downloadable pdf) and it wasn't just text on web. Ah well.

MadMunky wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Yeah because they were soooooooo bad.

Dunno about that. I found them to be pretty good at clearing out large units, hordes and the like, better than the Thunderfire.

But yeah figured I'd have to use them as Thunderfire Cannons for now. Bit disappointing that for whatever reason there aren't rules for them.

He means bad as in broken. They were the most powerful unit per point ever created.

 DarknessEternal wrote:

MadMunky wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Yeah because they were soooooooo bad.

Dunno about that. I found them to be pretty good at clearing out large units, hordes and the like, better than the Thunderfire.

But yeah figured I'd have to use them as Thunderfire Cannons for now. Bit disappointing that for whatever reason there aren't rules for them.

He means bad as in broken. They were the most powerful unit per point ever created.

Ah ok fair enough.

Though I'm a bit puzzled as to why they're considered so powerful as compared to say thunderfire cannons? Is it down to the 4 str8 anti-armour shots? As the thunderfire was probably better for the blast anti-infantry shots? My only experience running/testing them I had three of them as my only heavy support so they obviously did more than a single thunderfire cannon (and they got neutralised quickly enough), though like for like was there really that big a difference?

I guess I might be a bit naive in my understanding of them.

For anyone who cares, as per the Forge World FAQ:
"A Rapier Carrier may replace its quad heavy bolter for either a laser destroyer or a quad launcher"

Which is all I was after in my original post and the wargear options I thought they'd have to begin with when I got the IA book.