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Powerful Phoenix Lord





Dallas area, TX

If you had to choose between 20 Daemonettes or 10 Seekers of Slaanesh, which would you take?
They both have 20 wounds and roughly the same attacks (although half of the Seekers attacks are from the steeds' tongues)

The Seekers can pack those attacks in better, as well as their amazing speed, however they are more vunerable to multi-damage weapons
Daemonettes have more bodies, which is great for objectives, however they are more vulnerable to Morale (even if you split them into 2 units of 10)

Side Question: Seekers or Flesh Hounds?

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Seekers can't benefit from the Masque which is really, really dumb. I dunno what role Seekers are supposed to fill besides more wounds... they move really fast though! Don't forgot to swing at S4 with a Herald.

Have you used either yet?
   
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Powerful Phoenix Lord





Dallas area, TX

I haven't used either yet in 8E (I haven't actually gotten a single game in 8E at all actually)
But I own 20 Daemonettes that I might covert to Seekers if it's worth the effort.

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Pulsating Possessed Space Marine of Slaanesh





 Galef wrote:
I haven't used either yet in 8E (I haven't actually gotten a single game in 8E at all actually)
But I own 20 Daemonettes that I might covert to Seekers if it's worth the effort.

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I used both and the Daemonettes are superior as fighters, the seekers have the same number of attacks and wounds as 2 daemonettes but they cost 1pt more, and half there attacks are worse than the Daemonette ones, Daemonettes also benefit from the masque who is absolutely amazing.

Seekers do have a role however which is surge on ahead of the main attacking force and hold down units in CQC to avoid the rest of the army being shot (a role helldrakes can also fulfill) this helps large masses of daemonettes get into close quarters where they will massacre anything with high volumes of high AP attacks at strength 4.

Seekers are also decent/good at clearing out trash bubble wrap for the rest of the army, something Helldrakes (there main competitor for there role) can't do since they have nowhere near enough attacks.

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Inside Yvraine

In 6th and 7th I preferred seekers but now I prefer daemonettes.

Bumping up their points cost really took a gak on seekers- the extra wound is irrelevant on such a fragile model. Their attacks got gimped as well. 4 rending attacks on the charge is vastly superior to the 2 rending attacks+2 non-rending crap they have now.


As noted above they make decent tarpits though. Due to how fast they are you can lock down important enemy units quickly.

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Powerful Phoenix Lord





Dallas area, TX

So would you guys say that Daemonettes are best in large units, whereas Seekers are best as MSU (units of 6 for theme)?

If so, that's kind of a relief for me. I've always wanted to take Seekers but couldn't justify the large units they required in 7E. As I said, I already have 20 Daemonettes, so I am good there.
I still might want to get about 12 (2x 6) Seekers and have an idea to model them using Lizardmen Saurus with Daemonette claws.
Screamers are <Cavalry> without having riders, so why not Seekers?

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Inside Yvraine

Absolutely. I wouldn't even go above 5 for seekers, though 6 is perfectly fine.

The sweet spot to daemonettes for me is 20. Just small enough to be manageable on the board.

I'd say don't ever try to fish for the 30-man bonus. It's a fools errand for t3 models. I don't know why they even bothered to include it as a rule.
   
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Dallas area, TX

 BlaxicanX wrote:

I'd say don't ever try to fish for the 30-man bonus. It's a fools errand for t3 models. I don't know why they even bothered to include it as a rule.

I totally agree. It really should have been an 11+ model bonus, that way a 20 model unit might actually be able to use it by the time they get into combat

I get what you mean about not going above 5 models, but it just seems too "Slaaneshi" to take 6.
Its the same reason I'd rather take 2x 12 Daemonettes than 1 unit of 20.

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I've had seekers do a first turn charge on me. That's pretty impressive.
   
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i think they have different qualities and roles, the chance for 1st turn charge is awesome but demonettes really hit harder (usually) not an easy choice for me, i personally prefer demonettes btw.

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What do you guys think about Heralds of Slaanesh?
On foot with 'Nettes?
On Steed with Seekers?
On Steed with 'Nettes assaulting out?

Does the +1S given by the Herald change what unit is better?
S4 Daemonettes certainly hit harder, but getting a first turn charge with S4 Seekers seems pretty good too.

   
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I find that a clump of Seekers go down pretty fast against focused gauss fire, but daemonettes are a bit lower profile, making them ducking their deformed heads into cover just a little bit easier.

Oh, and they look better than giant tongue worm lizard things. :shrug:
   
 
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