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Hey guys! I remember reading a rule question regarding these keywords, but now I can't find the source. It had to do with what you could take in an army. The specific article talked about making up an army name to get things it normally couldn't get. Sound familiar at all?

If no one remembers reading that, maybe I can frame my question here. Let's say you play Raven Guard. In your keywords, you would replace <legion> with Raven Guard. But what if the keyword said <chapter> instead? I'd assume, again, you would replace it with Raven Guard. However, some characters/tanks/troops etc say <legion> and others <chapter>. Would Raven Guard apply to both? It seems common sense that it would, but my hazy memory of that article is causing doubt in my mind. Anyone remember it?

<Legion> refers to Chaos (Heretics Astartes). <Chapter> refers to Adeptus Astartes.

Thanks! That explains my confusion. My friend has an astartes index and I have a chaos index. He was wondering about his <chapter> keyword and I was looking at it as a separate classification from <legion> since all of my keywords say legion.

Just keep in mind that you have to actually pick a "legitimate" choice for <Legion> or <Chapter>.

<Chapter> can be Raven Guard, no problem. <Legion> cannot because Raven Guard are a chapter. Likewise, you can have <Legion> be Death Guard, but you can't have <Chapter> be Death Guard.

However, you could pick "Bob's Pretty Pink Marines" for both <Legion> or <Chapter>, but it wouldn't matter anyway because as per the FAQs you can't use that to gain access to auras or rules you shouldn't.

You can take a <chapter> as "Death Guard", or a <legion> as Raven Guard; it just doesn't matter.

Each <keyword> tag is keyword specific no matter what the value of keyword is.

If put into mathematical terms x=3, and y=3 is not x=y

 Kommissar Kel wrote:
You can take a <chapter> as "Death Guard", or a <legion> as Raven Guard; it just doesn't matter.

Each <keyword> tag is keyword specific no matter what the value of keyword is.

If put into mathematical terms x=3, and y=3 is not x=y

Except that's not true. In the case of a Chaos god keyword (Khorne/Nurgle/Slaanesh/Tzeentch), it could come from Heretic Astartes <MARK OF CHAOS> or it could come from Imperial Armour Chaos Daemons <ALLEGIANCE> keyword, or it could come from Renegades and Heretics <CHAOS COVENANT>, or it could even come from the stock chaos god keywords that Chaos Daemons have in the Chaos Index, yet once the KHORNE/NURGLE/SLAANESH/TZEENTCH keyword is chosen, there's no indication that any of these are different from each other, and nothing in GW's FAQ indicates that they should be treated any differently.

Instead, the FAQ seems to indicate that you simply aren't allowed to knowingly use a CSM legion name for a SM Chapter name, or an IG regiment name for a SM Chapter name, etc. There aren't really any hard and fast rules that can be applied, because much of that is based in the fluff, and the other half is just based in a general: 'don't be a dick' ruling.

In response: um... Its Chaos?

Also more broad sub-faction, less micro sub faction(mark tags are broader than legion tags, but more specific than simple chaos tag)

Also Forgeworld; who have always had things a little grey.

All the things you mentioned(from my understanding of them as my ia indices are at home) should have simply been called the same things. And the only way any of them matter to the chaos index is if they have daemon as well to gain benefit from heralds(and a few other things).

The "don't be a dick" rule is also answered in broad strokes but the intent is clear: you can have a homebrew regiment of death guard, but it is not intended to benefit legion death guard: sharing a name is meaningless when you get down to that level of faction.

E.g.:
Death Guard ig regiment goes: Imperium - Astra Militarum - Death Guard.
Death Guard Legion goes: Chaos - Nurgle - Heretic Astartes - Death Guard.

Everything before death guard in the above examples show that while they have the same end tag keywords they are in no way related.

I cannot remeber it off the top of my head right now but I vaguely recall an official chapter in an old SM codex or other publication that shared a chapter name with an unrelated army(not even sure it was a human army)

My Knights of Blood warband have the honour of being both a legitimate traitor warband and (semi renegade) blood angels successor.
Not that I would try to run them as both.