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Hello there

I'm looking for shooty army which can handle in 8th edition, what will you guys recommend me? Tau, ig, sm, necrons, eldars or de? Those are the basics one i ques, but what about
csm and that new adeptus mechanicus? Which one of them is fun to play and still can be competetive?

AdMech with Cawl spamming triple-phos Kastellan robots. Add some screening skitarii, a few dunecrawlers and a Knight, and you're good to go.

Literally any shooty army will do well in 8th.

Google fotm 1337 roflstomp netlist. Get trolled by GWs next errata, rinse and repeat within four weeks.

I'd say go fir an army whose models you like, but then again i'm old and strange...

Don't go necrons unless your prepared to buy the forge world units.

hobojebus wrote:
Don't go necrons unless your prepared to buy the forge world units.

Necrons can be very shooty with lots of troop units.
But it appears that 'crons are no longer top tier in the 8th ed.

Get 4x Imperial Knights with big guns.

Or get the army with models you really like and git gud.

zerosignal wrote:
AdMech with Cawl spamming triple-phos Kastellan robots. Add some screening skitarii, a few dunecrawlers and a Knight, and you're good to go.

What points level are you playing, 5000 points?

 wuestenfux wrote:

hobojebus wrote:
Don't go necrons unless your prepared to buy the forge world units.

Necrons can be very shooty with lots of troop units.
But it appears that 'crons are no longer top tier in the 8th ed.

They lack long range fire able to harm T8 units when compared to many armies they can't sit back and win a ranged duel, and are not great in combat which you'll end up in because your average range is 24.

Tau are one of the top rated ITC factions and are *the* shooting army.

Imperial Guard!

We've got big guns, lots of guys, and lots of tanks.

 Marmatag wrote:
Tau are one of the top rated ITC factions and are *the* shooting army.

Only because Commander Spam is a thing and is good.

 wuestenfux wrote:

hobojebus wrote:
Don't go necrons unless your prepared to buy the forge world units.

Necrons can be very shooty with lots of troop units.
But it appears that 'crons are no longer top tier in the 8th ed.

As a Necron player who moved to IG last edition I gotta say I like my IG more. There's more model choice's, more weapon choice's, more models on the field period. My necron army has always been pretty standard. If you're playing 1k games you can't fit a whole lot in with necrons. I have 1-3 lists made up for necrons in battlescribe that I go between, but my IG... I have like 20+ lists. Very customizable.

hobojebus wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

hobojebus wrote:
Don't go necrons unless your prepared to buy the forge world units.

Necrons can be very shooty with lots of troop units.
But it appears that 'crons are no longer top tier in the 8th ed.

They lack long range fire able to harm T8 units when compared to many armies they can't sit back and win a ranged duel, and are not great in combat which you'll end up in because your average range is 24.

True but the new version of reanimation protocols is insanely OP. Watch any battle with necrons and by the end of the game they've lost almost nothing.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Literally any shooty army will do well in 8th.

'cept Orks.

They don't even have buckets of dice, their one redeeming (read: fun) feature. Imperial armies get more dakka; at a better price, durability, and ballistic skill.

They get less shots, worse accuracy, damage (3 flat on rockets vs 3.5 average on Missiles (missiles have a 33% chance to do less damage, 17% to do the same, and 50% to do up to double damage)) than any other army out there.

fe40k wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Literally any shooty army will do well in 8th.

'cept Orks.

They don't even have buckets of dice, their one redeeming (read: fun) feature. Imperial armies get more dakka; at a better price, durability, and ballistic skill.

They get less shots, worse accuracy, damage (3 flat on rockets vs 3.5 average on Missiles (missiles have a 33% chance to do less damage, 17% to do the same, and 50% to do up to double damage)) than any other army out there.

Which means they aren't really a shooting army.

Right now imperial soup with a mix of SM, IG, and Forge World units seem to be the best shooting armies out there. You can't really go wrong with some combination of those. Other than that, Eldar and Tau are shooty and probably fun to play as well.

Danny slag wrote:

hobojebus wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

hobojebus wrote:
Don't go necrons unless your prepared to buy the forge world units.

Necrons can be very shooty with lots of troop units.
But it appears that 'crons are no longer top tier in the 8th ed.

They lack long range fire able to harm T8 units when compared to many armies they can't sit back and win a ranged duel, and are not great in combat which you'll end up in because your average range is 24.

True but the new version of reanimation protocols is insanely OP. Watch any battle with necrons and by the end of the game they've lost almost nothing.

Its really not that strong it only appears that way but if you look at results from players here on dakka you see necrons and nurgle two armies designed around survivability are doing the worst.

Units gaining wounds is not worth much when they can't inflict them, they'll loose against marine shooting as easily as they will to melee against orks no matter how many get back up.

They are outgunned and outmatched in melee res protocols don't make up for that deficiency.

hobojebus wrote:

Danny slag wrote:

hobojebus wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

hobojebus wrote:
Don't go necrons unless your prepared to buy the forge world units.

Necrons can be very shooty with lots of troop units.
But it appears that 'crons are no longer top tier in the 8th ed.

They lack long range fire able to harm T8 units when compared to many armies they can't sit back and win a ranged duel, and are not great in combat which you'll end up in because your average range is 24.

True but the new version of reanimation protocols is insanely OP. Watch any battle with necrons and by the end of the game they've lost almost nothing.

Its really not that strong it only appears that way but if you look at results from players here on dakka you see necrons and nurgle two armies designed around survivability are doing the worst.

Units gaining wounds is not worth much when they can't inflict them, they'll loose against marine shooting as easily as they will to melee against orks no matter how many get back up.

They are outgunned and outmatched in melee res protocols don't make up for that deficiency.

I played against necrons yesterday and boardwiped them turn 3 with a world eaters close combat army. without taking really nasty stuff.

They lack moveability, range, and heavy fire power. Maybe in bigger games it gets better but in the 1000-2000 range they have yet to amaze me.

Those regeneration protocols are easily bypassed. Just make sure you wipe a unit in one go. Focus fire/CC and then move to the next unit. 9 WE Berzerkers make quick work of a unit of 20 warriors if they get in cc.