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2017/08/20 16:51:58
Subject: [1000] - Astra Militarum - (Competitive)
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I was trying to come up with a 1000pt AM list that is semi-competetive... Any thoughts or critiques?
HQ
-Company Commander w/ Chainsword and Laspistol
-Company Commander w/ Chainsword and Laspistol
-Tempestor Prime w/ Chainsword, Tempestus Command Rod
TROOPS
-Conscripts x23
-Conscripts x23
-Militarum Tempestus Scions
. 5x Scion: 5x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
-Militarum Tempestus Scions
. 5x Scion: 5x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
ELITES
-Commissar w/ Bolt pistol
-Commissar w/ Bolt pistol
-Militarum Tempestus Command Squad
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
HEAVY SUPPORT
-Basilisks
. Basilisk: Heavy Bolter
. Basilisk: Heavy Bolter
. Basilisk: Heavy Bolter
-Heavy Weapons Squad
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
-Heavy Weapons Squad
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
59 PL, 998pts
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2017/08/23 09:14:03
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2017/08/20 17:36:26
Subject: Re:[1000] - Astra Militarum - (Semi-Competitive)
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Dakka Veteran
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Looks solid. But if your goal really is 'semi-competitive', I think you've missed the mark some. This is pretty much a smaller version of what won BAO.
I have nothing against running or playing against competitive lists, but at least be honest about it. Like, the only 'inefficient' things you've done is taking extra bodies on the Scion squads, but even that's not THAT inefficient. I have a hard time believing you decided conscripts, plasma scions, basilisks, and mortars made up a fun and fluffy list for ''semi-competitive' store play. Either that or your local store meta is absolutely brutal and I want to play there.
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2017/08/20 17:43:00
Subject: [1000] - Astra Militarum - (Semi-Competitive)
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Well, I should say that by semi-competitive, I mean competitive lists played with a friendly spirit and some scotch. I play with all military guys and we tend to lean towards WAAC without the hard feelings attached. Maybe I could tone it down a bit for when I go to hobby shops and stuff. Maybe take out 2 basilisks and some spare scions from the troop choices and put in a Lemon Russ? To water it down a bit?
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2017/08/20 18:25:27
Subject: [1000] - Astra Militarum - (Semi-Competitive)
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Dakka Veteran
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Jkbulldogg wrote:Well, I should say that by semi-competitive, I mean competitive lists played with a friendly spirit and some scotch. I play with all military guys and we tend to lean towards WAAC without the hard feelings attached. Maybe I could tone it down a bit for when I go to hobby shops and stuff. Maybe take out 2 basilisks and some spare scions from the troop choices and put in a Lemon Russ? To water it down a bit?
Oh, yeah in that case this list should be just fine. You've got a solid list all around. It was just when you said semi competitive I figured it was for pickup games at the store.
Honestly, I've been struggling trying to come up with a 'semi competitive' list as Guard for store games. Even tossing in blatant sinks like Sentinels hasnt done much. But I think a lot of that is my local meta having more casual players.
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2017/08/20 19:37:51
Subject: [1000] - Astra Militarum - (Competitive)
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Some Sentinels might be a good idea to water it down a bit. Gives me a chance to check out those Forge World drop troop sentinels.
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2017/08/20 23:33:21
Subject: [1000] - Astra Militarum - (Competitive)
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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I like this list and would play against it in a heartbeat with 1000 points of orky goodness.putting a Russ and Sentinells in to bring the list to 1500 would make it solid but not waac for pick up games
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'\' ~9000pts
'' ~1500
"" ~3000
"" ~2500
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2017/08/21 02:55:39
Subject: [1000] - Astra Militarum - (Competitive)
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Fresh-Faced New User
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morfydd wrote:I like this list and would play against it in a heartbeat with 1000 points of orky goodness.putting a Russ and Sentinells in to bring the list to 1500 would make it solid but not waac for pick up games
For 1500 pts, I would probably increase conscripts to 50 each, and split the two 10 man Scion squads down to just 5 man, but add one for a total of 3 squads (each with 2 plasma guns and a plasma pistol). I'd also throw on 3 Taurox Primes with gatling cannons and volley guns.
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2017/08/21 03:41:30
Subject: [1000] - Astra Militarum - (Competitive)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Are your main squads of Scions holding the line or dropping in? Because if you're going to hole them up in ruins and hold the line, you might consider HSVGs instead of just straight plasma. 4 S4 AP-2 shots at 24" range is useful against a different target profile than your other weaponry.
Your command squad is your kill team clearly, your basilisk is essentially anti-tank, and your mortars are anti-horde. But you don't have anything in the middle. 16 rerolling 1 S4 Ap-2 shots at 24" is enough to make marines wince. Especially if you're holding still with BS3+.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/08/21 03:41:55
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2017/08/21 04:22:08
Subject: [1000] - Astra Militarum - (Competitive)
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Interesting thoughts. I hadn't given much thought towards VGs. It would be nice with the BS3+ when not moving. I had been planning on dropping them in, but a change of tactics might be in order. Thanks
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2017/08/22 04:51:17
Subject: [1000] - Astra Militarum - (Competitive)
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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I was checking your list and I keep getting a smudge over 1k. I may be off though. Just letting you know.
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2017/08/22 10:15:05
Subject: [1000] - Astra Militarum - (Competitive)
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Just did the math again and got 1010pts. I'm glad I haven't tried to run this list yet! Ill see about tweaking the conscript numbers. Thanks for the heads up, my man.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/08/22 10:16:57
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