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Guarding Guardian




My GK armies keep getting shot off the board. I usually do half strike half term. Has anyone had any luck with intercepter/talon/Storm Raven? I need something to kill back field tanks/destroyer units reliably. Gates only goes so far. Thanks in advance.
   
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Armored Iron Breaker





Dallas, TX

SR's are a good bet yes. It has been working decently for the people I have seen use it. Usually has the ability to stick around all game too unless someone seriously focuses it down.

"It's like the 12 days of Christmas...except its the 12 days of Death" Ian Christe
 
   
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Ship's Officer



London

I think flyers are probably a good option, yes. They have the advantage that they are pretty difficult to shoot dead, meaning they are good units to be on the board waiting for the rest of your stuff to deep strike in.

SRs are also a good way to reduce the number of unit drops you have. For instance you could put a unit and a character, plus maybe a dreadnought, in a SR and have 3-4 units down in one go. It's a good way to improve your chances of getting first turn.

Flyers also tend to have lascannons, which are fairly difficult to find elsewhere. It's possibly worth giving a Storm Raven heavy bolters, to work with psybolt ammuntion along with its hurricane bolters. Multi-meltas and cyclones are also good options though.
   
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps




Phoenix, AZ, USA

Of the three flyers available to GK, the Stormraven has the most utility given its weapons load and being a transport. The Stormtalon is a good anti-infantry bird, while the Stormhawk is a great anti-flyer bird that just so happens to be cheap.

If in doubt, go with Stormravens. If you know your meta, then look into Talons or Hawks.

SJ

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world.”
- Ephesians 6:12
 
   
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman



Tampa, Florida

I've recently upgraded my GK list to include a Stormraven after the Rifledreads went extinct. It's only had one game so far (and that was a very sad showing) but it has real solid potential. I selected lascannons and Typhoons so that it can fire 6 high strength, multi damage shots per turn in addition to the hurricane bolters. With that load out it is more dangerous than a Land Raider, faster, cheaper, and has a higher transport capacity. At this point, I don't plan on putting any guys on board. The Stormraven is there solely to shoot and draw fire away from my Razorbacks, Paladin's, and GM Dreadknight.
   
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Guarded Grey Knight Terminator






The stormraven is good but watch out about starting the game with too many units on board. With an alpha strike heavy meta you could find yourself putting all your eggs in one basket and losing not only the raven but find everything that was embarked to be easily targeted as well.

it is good. I get good use out of mine. I have lascannon, multi melta, hurricane bolters on mine. The gk are already good at dealing with hordes and the high strength shots go a long way. especially next to a grand master or draigo when they almost always connect.

"Glory in our suffering, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not disappoint"
-Paul of Tarsus

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Longtime Dakkanaut




if they kill everything on the board but the raven, they win by default I believe
   
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman



Tampa, Florida

2nd game tonight with a Stormraven and it was excellent. It went hunting after the things that could kill it first. It took out a squad of lootas and a squad of tankbustas and part of another set of tankbustas before my opponent called it a game. It drew a lot of dakka off the Paladin's and Dreadknight while putting down some hurt. Solid unit.
   
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Guarding Guardian




Thanks that was helpful. I will add it in
   
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte





London

Just had my first game with the Interceptor loaded out as anti flyer and it blew up everything with <Fly>, you hit them on 2s with the Heavies not to mention the 2 versatile AC hitting on 4+.
In my local meta every army as a few <Fly> vehicles and and having the Interceptor made a huge difference getting me the first clear victory in 8th.
It's also T7 and reroll saves of 1

You also have the versatility to kit it out with ground shooting Heavies but will be hitting on 5+

To blow up tanks my go to is a Predator with 2 Lascannon and Pred Autocannon, the latter it's an Heavy 2D3 doing a flat 3D each, you'll need more than that but I find it to be a very good unit especially if you can give it some sort of reroll.

 
   
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Ship's Officer



London

 Gendo wrote:
Just had my first game with the Interceptor loaded out as anti flyer and it blew up everything with <Fly>, you hit them on 2s with the Heavies not to mention the 2 versatile AC hitting on 4+.
In my local meta every army as a few <Fly> vehicles and and having the Interceptor made a huge difference getting me the first clear victory in 8th.
It's also T7 and reroll saves of 1

You also have the versatility to kit it out with ground shooting Heavies but will be hitting on 5+

To blow up tanks my go to is a Predator with 2 Lascannon and Pred Autocannon, the latter it's an Heavy 2D3 doing a flat 3D each, you'll need more than that but I find it to be a very good unit especially if you can give it some sort of reroll.

The interceptor hits things on the ground on a 4+ if using the las-talon or typhoon, and hits stuff with "fly" on a 3+. That's factoring in its 3+ BS, -1 to hit from moving and firing heavies and +1 to hit things that fly. Hard to hit flyers are only hit on a 4+, obviously. If it's using an icarus stormcannon or skyhammer then it hits things that fly on a 2+ and other stuff on a 5+!

Personally I think it makes sense to give it the las talon, because it's a far better gun than the icarus and very versatile. The skyhammer feels like a better choice than the typhoon. It might not make a huge difference though. I wouldn't equip it only with AA guns, as that feels over-specialised to me - and the guns aren't actually all that powerful.
   
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I'm deciding between a Stormtalon and an Interceptor right now, already have a Stormraven in my list. I'm leaning more towards the Stormtalon with las for more accurate dakka against ground troops and to have the choice of holding back both my fliers in my deployment if needed.

My question is, have anyone had success with the Stormtalon, especially together with a Stormraven? Seems like most people prefer the Interceptor.
   
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot





Perth

Got wrecked by a stormraven and triple dreadknight list last night. Between half the army off the board in DS and most of the rest in the raven I had little to shoot at t1 :/

12,000
 
   
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte





London

Mandragola wrote:
 Gendo wrote:
Just had my first game with the Interceptor loaded out as anti flyer and it blew up everything with <Fly>, you hit them on 2s with the Heavies not to mention the 2 versatile AC hitting on 4+.
In my local meta every army as a few <Fly> vehicles and and having the Interceptor made a huge difference getting me the first clear victory in 8th.
It's also T7 and reroll saves of 1

You also have the versatility to kit it out with ground shooting Heavies but will be hitting on 5+

To blow up tanks my go to is a Predator with 2 Lascannon and Pred Autocannon, the latter it's an Heavy 2D3 doing a flat 3D each, you'll need more than that but I find it to be a very good unit especially if you can give it some sort of reroll.

The interceptor hits things on the ground on a 4+ if using the las-talon or typhoon, and hits stuff with "fly" on a 3+. That's factoring in its 3+ BS, -1 to hit from moving and firing heavies and +1 to hit things that fly. Hard to hit flyers are only hit on a 4+, obviously. If it's using an icarus stormcannon or skyhammer then it hits things that fly on a 2+ and other stuff on a 5+!

Personally I think it makes sense to give it the las talon, because it's a far better gun than the icarus and very versatile. The skyhammer feels like a better choice than the typhoon. It might not make a huge difference though. I wouldn't equip it only with AA guns, as that feels over-specialised to me - and the guns aren't actually all that powerful.


I agree on the loadout as a versatile unit master of none, my meta it's full of xenos with either flyers or <fly> and the Interceptor with the correct loadout it's beast not mentioning the rerolling 1 saves which makes it less likely to get targeted.

 
   
 
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