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2018/05/11 02:25:34
Subject: [2000] - Deathguard - Mortarion
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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Easy and fun to paint army, only 32 models. I love the look of the new Deathguards. Mortarion as a centerpiece of course, with 2 Deamon Princes as bodyguards and 2 units of Plague Drones and a full Blight-Hauler trinity as support. Then some plague marines either holding objectives or moving forward slowly like a tide of death and decay. Pretty fast and mobile for a Deathguard list Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment 470pts - Mortarion Battalion Detachment 180 - Daemon Prince - Wings - 2x Malefic Talons - Warlord (Rotten Constitution) - Suppurating Plate (Relic) 180 - Daemon Prince - Wings - 2x Malefic Talons - Pandemic Staff (Relic) 137pts - 5x Plague Marines - 2x Blight Launcher - Champion has Plasmagun & Plaguesword 136pts - 5x Plague Marines - 2x Blight Launcher - Champion has Plasmagun 136pts - 5x Plague Marines - 2x Blight Launcher - Champion has Plasmagun 136pts - 5x Plague Marines - 2x Blight Launcher - Champion has Plasmagun 426pts - 3x Myphitic Blight-Haulers 99pts - 3x Chaos Spawn 99pts - 3x Chaos Spawn Total 2000pts - 10 Deployment - 6 CP (-1 for extra Relic)
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This message was edited 7 times. Last update was at 2017/12/12 01:18:06
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0001/12/11 05:10:51
Subject: [2000] - Deathguard - Mortarion
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Its not deathguard because of the plague drones!! you lose all your strats etc!!
Use Chaos spawn instead!! cheaper as well.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/12/11 05:14:20
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2017/12/11 05:59:03
Subject: [2000] - Deathguard - Mortarion
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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Damn, I missed that, thanks bro, I guess Spawns will do a similar job, not as tough or fast but a fair amount more damagy. I could also replace the two Plague Drone units and the fourth unit of Plague Marines for 2 Foetid Bloat-Drones or 2 Plagueburst Crawler. Maybe one of each.
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This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2017/12/11 06:12:35
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2017/12/11 09:03:21
Subject: [2000] - Deathguard - Mortarion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Not convinced the pandemic staff is worth the CP.
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2017/12/11 10:49:02
Subject: [2000] - Deathguard - Mortarion
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Cultist of Nurgle with Open Sores
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Plague drones are in the codex and they are way better than spawns. I use them all the time.
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2017/12/11 10:51:29
Subject: [2000] - Deathguard - Mortarion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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swanson4969 wrote:Plague drones are in the codex and they are way better than spawns. I use them all the time.
But they don't have the Death Guard keyword, even in the Codex.
Doesn't matter if you run mainly poxwalker spam and/or just do summoning stuff in open/narrative play, but the Plague Marine list above presumably wants that sweet 18" rapid fire.
Or one could simply put the Drones with the Haulers (they don't care about Legion traits) and a cheap HQ (starter box sorcerer?) into a separate Outrider Detachment.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/12/11 10:53:04
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2017/12/11 12:58:42
Subject: [2000] - Deathguard - Mortarion
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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Its true, I checked the rules, I need to have at least one detachment which is only Deathguard keywords to have access to the stratagems and legion trait.
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2017/12/11 13:18:42
Subject: [2000] - Deathguard - Mortarion
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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my opionion...if you wanna play so much plagues on foot i suggest you play 1 single unit, 15-20 men, you can screen them with poxwalkers and or cultists and use on them cloud of flyes, supported by psionic (blade of putrescence+VOTLW ) they become hard hitters, bloated drones are great with Mortarion+2 princes flying around, 426 of mephitic well...i m not sure it worth.
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2017/12/11 14:01:07
Subject: [2000] - Deathguard - Mortarion
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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Move a prince, the drones, and the blight haulers to an outrider detachment so the main detachment can keep it's rules.
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2017/12/11 14:02:10
Subject: [2000] - Deathguard - Mortarion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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fartherthanfar wrote:Its true, I checked the rules, I need to have at least one detachment which is only Deathguard keywords to have access to the stratagems and legion trait.
Stratagems for the army, legion trait it has to be the detachment the units are in. Your current set up loses you those bonuses on your plague marines which is a pretty big deal.
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2017/12/11 14:43:31
Subject: [2000] - Deathguard - Mortarion
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Pete Haines
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Just wanted to say the picture really helps. I’m no chaos expert, but they tend to fly through Cp’s very fast. I think as a general rule of thumb, you want to have a screen in 8th edition as well.
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2017/12/12 00:42:13
Subject: [2000] - Deathguard - Mortarion
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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buddha wrote:Move a prince, the drones, and the blight haulers to an outrider detachment so the main detachment can keep it's rules.
I need an extra HQ to be able to do that, Mortarion isnt HQ :( I updated the list with Spawns instead
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2017/12/12 01:22:36
Subject: Re:[2000] - Deathguard - Mortarion
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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I can always use these guys as a cool Nurgle spawns
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2017/12/12 08:42:45
Subject: [2000] - Deathguard - Mortarion
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Death Guard) ++
+ HQ +
Daemon Prince of Nurgle: Curse of the Leper, Malefic talon, Wings
+ Fast Attack +
Myphitic Blight-haulers
. Myphitic Blight-hauler: Bile spurt, Missile launcher, Multi-melta
Myphitic Blight-haulers
. Myphitic Blight-hauler: Bile spurt, Missile launcher, Multi-melta
Myphitic Blight-haulers
. Myphitic Blight-hauler: Bile spurt, Missile launcher, Multi-melta
++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Chaos - Death Guard) ++
+ Lord of War +
Mortarion
++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Death Guard) ++
+ HQ +
Daemon Prince of Nurgle: Blades of Putrefaction, Malefic talon, The Suppurating Plate, Wings
Typhus: Miasma of Pestilence, Putrescent Vitality
+ Troops +
Chaos Cultists: 19x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun
Plague Marines
. Plague Champion: Plague knife, Plasma gun
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Bubotic Axe
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Flail of Corruption
. Plague Marine w/ melee weapons: Flail of Corruption
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher
Poxwalkers: 20x Poxwalker
i tried a list similar to this, screen the big blob of PM's with cultists and pox, use cloud of flies stratagem on them and pump up poxes now is opponenet target poxes he have t5 and -1 to hit and if target cultists you get back poxes with stratagem, and Pm's are impossible to hit, Morty and one/two Dp's pressing forward, that list for me works better with 3 plague drones instead haulers.
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2017/12/12 13:54:11
Subject: [2000] - Deathguard - Mortarion
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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Interesting list, a lot more infantry, the plague marines will be difficult to kill but are also very slow and cumbersome as a close combat unit.
I could certainly see this list working against some opponents but also failing hard against other lists like maneuverable powerful shooty list.
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2017/12/12 16:43:49
Subject: Re:[2000] - Deathguard - Mortarion
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Also because of chapter approved your 5 man PM squad with 2 blight launchers and plasma champ are now 118 pts. PMs are 17 pts each and blight launchers are 10 pts each now. You have more points to play with c:
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2017/12/12 23:11:09
Subject: [2000] - Deathguard - Mortarion
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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fartherthanfar wrote:Interesting list, a lot more infantry, the plague marines will be difficult to kill but are also very slow and cumbersome as a close combat unit.
I could certainly see this list working against some opponents but also failing hard against other lists like maneuverable powerful shooty list.
indeed that's why i play bloated drones instead of haulers, pretty more dangerous, btw the list isn't so slow, i have 6 pieces flying and moving 10+, usually who play that kind of list also have a way to get warptime so you have a bigger threat in Mortarion.
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2017/12/12 23:33:48
Subject: [2000] - Deathguard - Mortarion
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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Oh man, yeah, Warptime on mortarion sounds like a really boss idea.
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