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Made in ie
Norn Queen






Dublin, Ireland

Can someone sanity check this for me?
Built it using Battlescribe so unsure all options are all ok.
Basic idea is 2 x 15 Letter bombs as everything else rushes up field with the Brutes and Cannon as a firebase. Cultists merely there as bubblewrap.

+++ New Roster (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [124 PL, 1998pts] +++

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: World Eaters
. Categories: No Force Org Slot

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chaos Rhino: Combi-bolter, Mark of Khorne
. Categories: <Legion>, <Mark of Chaos>, Chaos, Heretic Astartes, Dedicated Transport, Transport, Vehicle, Khorne

Chaos Rhino: Combi-bolter, Mark of Khorne
. Categories: <Legion>, <Mark of Chaos>, Chaos, Heretic Astartes, Dedicated Transport, Transport, Vehicle, Khorne

Chaos Rhino: Combi-bolter, Mark of Khorne
. Categories: <Legion>, <Mark of Chaos>, Chaos, Heretic Astartes, Dedicated Transport, Transport, Vehicle, Khorne

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord with Jump Pack: Axe of Blind Fury, Mark of Khorne, Plasma pistol, Power axe
. Categories: HQ, Chaos, Chaos Lord, Character, Fly, Infantry, Jump Pack, <Legion>, <Mark of Chaos>, Khorne

Daemon Prince with Wings: 4. Hatred Incarnate, Brass Collar of Borghaster, Daemonic axe, Khorne, Warlord
. Categories: HQ, Chaos, Character, Daemon, Fly, Heretic Astartes, Monster, <Legion>, Khorne

+ Elites +

Helbrute: Mark of Khorne, Missile launcher, Reaper autocannon
. Categories: Chaos, Elites, Vehicle, Heretic Astartes, <Mark of Chaos>, Emperor's Children, Khorne

Helbrute: Mark of Khorne, Missile launcher, Reaper autocannon
. Categories: Chaos, Elites, Vehicle, Heretic Astartes, <Mark of Chaos>, Emperor's Children, Khorne

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists: 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, Mark of Khorne
. Categories: Troops, Heretic Astartes, Infantry, Chaos, Khorne
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists: 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, Mark of Khorne
. Categories: Troops, Heretic Astartes, Infantry, Chaos, Khorne
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Khorne Berzerkers
. Categories: Chaos, Heretic Astartes, Infantry, Khorne, Troops, World Eater
. Berzerker Champion: Bolt pistol, Chainsword
. 4x Chainaxe and bolt pistol: 4x Chainaxe
. 3x Chainsword and bolt pistol

Khorne Berzerkers
. Categories: Chaos, Heretic Astartes, Infantry, Khorne, Troops, World Eater
. Berzerker Champion: Bolt pistol, Chainsword
. 4x Chainaxe and bolt pistol: 4x Chainaxe
. 3x Chainsword and bolt pistol

Khorne Berzerkers
. Categories: Chaos, Heretic Astartes, Infantry, Khorne, Troops, World Eater
. Berzerker Champion: Bolt pistol, Chainsword
. 4x Chainaxe and bolt pistol: 4x Chainaxe
. 3x Chainsword and bolt pistol

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Daemons) ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Chaos Allegiance: Khorne
. Categories: No Force Org Slot

+ Heavy Support +

Skull Cannon
. Categories: Heavy Support, Bloodletter, Daemon, Khorne, Chaos

+ HQ +

Blood Throne: A'rgath, the King of Blades
. Categories: HQ, Bloodletter, Character, Daemon, Herald, Khorne, Chaos

Karanak
. Categories: Beast, Daemon, HQ, Flesh Hound, Khorne, Chaos, Character

+ Elites +

Bloodcrushers: 3x Bloodcrusher, Bloodhunter, Instrument of Chaos
. Categories: Elites, Bloodletter, Daemon, Cavalry, Khorne, Chaos

+ Troops +

Bloodletters: 15x Bloodletter, Bloodreaper, Daemonic Icon
. Categories: Troops, Khorne, Infantry, Daemon, Bloodletter, Chaos

Bloodletters: 15x Bloodletter, Bloodreaper, Daemonic Icon
. Categories: Troops, Khorne, Infantry, Daemon, Bloodletter, Chaos

Bloodletters: 9x Bloodletter, Bloodreaper
. Categories: Troops, Khorne, Infantry, Daemon, Bloodletter, Chaos

Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)

Dman137 wrote:
goobs is all you guys will ever be

By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.

"Feelin' goods, good enough". 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




Northridge, CA

I'll give you some comments based on my experience and what you have in this list.

1) Drop the Chaos Lord with Jump Pack and take either a Dark Apostle or Exalted Champ. They are huge force multipliers for your Berzerkers.
2) The Daemon Prince is better with the Talisman if you're keeping him in the CSM Detachment. Give the Collar to the other HQ choice.
3) May want to shove those Cultists in a CSM / Renegade and Heretic Battalion with two Renegade Commanders. 170 points total for 3CP. Worth it.
4) I cannot for the life of me tell how many Berzerkers are in each of these units, but all of them should have Chainsword + Chainaxe, and for extra punch your Champ should have a Power Fist. This may mean taking smaller units of 5, but you'll have a Dark Apostle of Exalted Champ force multiplying them so you won't need the bigger numbers to do massive damage, just the re-rolls.
5) Blood Throne is useless till they make it useful, Just walk the Herald up. He'll be fine as long as he's got an escort or is dropping in.
6) Replace Karanak with Skulltaker for a bigger force multiplayer for your Bloodletters.
7) Bloodcrushers are overcosted at the moment so you should drop them and fill out the Bloodletters to 20 men each or 2x20 and 1x10.
8) Consider either more Cultists or some Flesh Hounds or even a handful of Chaos Spawn for screening purposes. The screen have to both be in front to deny alpha strike and behind to deny backfield deep strike. Your army is going to be moving up the board together to meet the Bloodletters dropping in. You can't have something coming up behind you and making you split your forces. You MUST move as one giant blob around the table. I learned this back in KDK days and it holds true today. If you allow your opponent to split your force, you lost.
   
Made in ie
Norn Queen






Dublin, Ireland

Thanks dude, good feedback
I'll have a retweak. Really want to try the Crushers though. They just not worth it? :(

Dman137 wrote:
goobs is all you guys will ever be

By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.

"Feelin' goods, good enough". 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




Northridge, CA

Unfortunately Khorne does two things really well: hit super hard on the charge, and die. Bloodcrushers are almost good with their decent statline and large number of attacks, further compounded by a nearby Super Herald (Strength Locus, Re-roll Locus, Crimson Crown, Warlord Trait: Re-roll1's), however your deep strikes are going to slam into chaff more often than meaningful targets, and 20 Bloodletters are about the same cost as 3 Bloodcrushers while having more wounds and a much larger footprint to boot, while also benefiting from the Herald in the same way. If they were just a liiiiittle cheaper or a litttttle tougher or a liiiiittle more killy, they would be worth it. At the moment they just aren't.
   
Made in ie
Norn Queen






Dublin, Ireland

If I drop the BCs it frees up about 198 points.
Any advice on what to take instead Sonic?
I dont have enough cultists to run the third battalion unfortunately.

Also is the chainaxe/sword combo for utility? You cant use both at the same time right?

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/01/21 15:49:00


Dman137 wrote:
goobs is all you guys will ever be

By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.

"Feelin' goods, good enough". 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




Northridge, CA

 Ratius wrote:
If I drop the BCs it frees up about 198 points.
Any advice on what to take instead Sonic?
I dont have enough cultists to run the third battalion unfortunately.

Also is the chainaxe/sword combo for utility? You cant use both at the same time right?
Well what do you have?

And yeah chainsword/sword for who?
   
Made in ie
Norn Queen






Dublin, Ireland

Not a huge amount Im afraid:

5 termies
5 Flesh hounds
Landraider
Another hellbrute
Another Skull cannon

I meant the chainswords/axes on the zerkers.

Dman137 wrote:
goobs is all you guys will ever be

By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.

"Feelin' goods, good enough". 
   
Made in ca
Fresh-Faced New User




Texas

You want the chainsword and chainaxe on the zerks because you can use the axe for most of your attacks while still generating an additional attack from the sword. Since you attack twice per turn you hsould get two swings per turn from the sword, which makes it better in general than the one shot you would get from the bolt pistol.

Also, I second the motion that replacing the lord and DP with an Apostle and Champion will do way more to buff your berzerkers than what you have up there now. If you can find the points to keep the DP they are handy but I suspect you will be happier with harder-hitting berzerkers most of the time.

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