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2018/03/09 18:38:06
Subject: (Chaos Space Marines) Would I Still Gain a Legion Trait?
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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I am 95% sure the answer is no to this, but I wanted to double-check to see if I missed anything ...
Supreme HQ Detachment
HQ #1 - Something with <Legion>
HQ #2 - Something with <Same Legion>
HQ #3 - Something with <Still the Same Legion>
Lord of War #1 - Renegade Knight
In my head, the 5% Yes is thinking that because all my HQ's are the same Legion and since the Renegade Knight is not eligible for a Legion, RAI means I still get a Legion Trait.
The 95% No tells me that RAW means that every single unit has to be the same Legion and, since no Legion is not the same as <Legion>, none of my HQ models would get the benefit of a Legion Trait
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2018/03/09 18:39:12
Subject: (Chaos Space Marines) Would I Still Gain a Legion Trait?
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Norn Queen
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 orchewer wrote:I am 95% sure the answer is no to this, but I wanted to double-check to see if I missed anything ... Supreme HQ Detachment HQ #1 - Something with <Legion> HQ #2 - Something with <Same Legion> HQ #3 - Something with <Still the Same Legion> Lord of War #1 - Renegade Knight In my head, the 5% Yes is thinking that because all my HQ's are the same Legion and since the Renegade Knight is not eligible for a Legion, RAI means I still get a Legion Trait. The 95% No tells me that RAW means that every single unit has to be the same Legion and, since no Legion is not the same as <Legion>, none of my HQ models would get the benefit of a Legion Trait
Sorry but you don't get a Legion Trait, RaW and RaI. Just because something couldn't benefit from a Legion Trait doesn't somehow make it immune from the rules regarding them.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2018/03/09 18:40:27
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2018/03/09 19:07:03
Subject: Re:(Chaos Space Marines) Would I Still Gain a Legion Trait?
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Lieutenant General
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The rules require that the detachment be a 'Chaos Space Marine Detachment' (i.e., a detachment made up solely of 'Chaos Space Marine Units') to benefit from a Legion Trait. See page 156 of Codex Chaos Space Marine for what qualifies as a 'Chaos Space Marine Unit'. Suffice it to say, a Renegade Knight does not qualify.
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2018/03/09 20:58:33
Subject: (Chaos Space Marines) Would I Still Gain a Legion Trait?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Just take the knight in a Super Heavy Auxiliary detachment.
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2018/03/09 20:59:53
Subject: (Chaos Space Marines) Would I Still Gain a Legion Trait?
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Norn Queen
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The issue is that 99.99% of Matched Play games use the recommended Detachment Limits. He might not have a free Detachment left.
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