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Fluttering Firewyrm of Tzeentch






Hi,

Okay so actually asking this question makes me feel kind of stupid. I can't find a tutorial as to how to thin paints and thefore its probably because it doesn't require one. I see the main advice given to new painters is to thin their paints without ever saying how.

When I try to thin paints, I ALWAYS can see the "brush lines" whether it is because I thinned it too much and I can see the layer under it or because I didn't thin it enough and I can see the excess of paint. How do you get a smooth layer? Please help me! Should I not use tap water? Can someone give me an actual example of correct ratio for a specific citadel color?

Let's say, Maccrage Blue. What's the water/paint ratio you would use? I'll try to replicate that, maybe it's the way I load my brush that's a problem ...


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Use a palette of some sort - either a plastic dish, palette paper, or, personally, I use a bathroom tile (have a couple picked up for cheap).

Put your paint on the palette and use your paint brush to dip into your water, and add to the paint on the palette, until the paint is thinner than it was. You'll eventually figure out the right thickness (which I rarely get right). With thinned paint you'll need several coats, because a single layer will not cover your primer.

Smoothly applying 2-4 coats of thinned paint, you won't see paint strokes, but you also want to be using a decent brush and not applying a ton of awkward pressure, etc.
   
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The idea is to add water until the paint has the rough same consistency as milk. So the amount of water varies a little depending on the paint a bit.

Once you've mixed paint and water together and you're putting paint on the brush one tip is to wipe some paint off on the pallet and to roll the brush head so that the paint covers all sides of it rather than being loaded on just one side.

You might find that to get an even coat on the model you have to paint two coats of paint over the surface of the colour you're choosing to use.


The painting tutorials here might well help you out:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwdh3MTrFq3sXlB4ct8B-Fg


Thinner paint means it should flow more easily and cover the surface smoother. Two coats is to help build up the colour as, with watered down paint, you've clearly reduced the density of the pigment in the paint that gives it its colour.


Note I assume you are basing the model with primer first before applying paint

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I'm using a wet palette that TableTop Minion advised (wet paper towel surrounded by wax paper). Maybe I stop too early, I never do more than 2 layers :/

I'll try just trusting the process and keep adding these thin layers 4 times
   
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Wet Pallets are more about keeping the paint wet than they are about thinning it ( far as I'm aware). So they are good for allowing you to keep the paint moist so you can work with it for hours rather than having it dry up on you whilst your working (helps when painting lots of models or bigger one that can take more time)

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 Overread wrote:
The idea is to add water until the paint has the rough same consistency as milk. So the amount of water varies a little depending on the paint a bit.

Once you've mixed paint and water together and you're putting paint on the brush one tip is to wipe some paint off on the pallet and to roll the brush head so that the paint covers all sides of it rather than being loaded on just one side.

You might find that to get an even coat on the model you have to paint two coats of paint over the surface of the colour you're choosing to use.


The painting tutorials here might well help you out:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwdh3MTrFq3sXlB4ct8B-Fg


Thinner paint means it should flow more easily and cover the surface smoother. Two coats is to help build up the colour as, with watered down paint, you've clearly reduced the density of the pigment in the paint that gives it its colour.


Note I assume you are basing the model with primer first before applying paint


Yeah I prime with black spray can.

I've seen a few tutorials on that channel and they're amazing but I feel like he always skip over how to thin the paints, he just "does it"

Also thanks for the "loading" tip. I'll try to pay attention to that

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I'm fairly sure he covers it in an earlier video

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 Overread wrote:
I'm fairly sure he covers it in an earlier video


yup I just found one from a month ago!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s

Thanks!!
   
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 Kelrash wrote:
 Overread wrote:
I'm fairly sure he covers it in an earlier video


yup I just found one from a month ago!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s

Thanks!!


Thanks for posting. I couldn't find the video. Glad you did. I always have trouble doing this. Will see if this helps out.

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 Kelrash wrote:
 Overread wrote:
The idea is to add water until the paint has the rough same consistency as milk. So the amount of water varies a little depending on the paint a bit.

Once you've mixed paint and water together and you're putting paint on the brush one tip is to wipe some paint off on the pallet and to roll the brush head so that the paint covers all sides of it rather than being loaded on just one side.

You might find that to get an even coat on the model you have to paint two coats of paint over the surface of the colour you're choosing to use.


The painting tutorials here might well help you out:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwdh3MTrFq3sXlB4ct8B-Fg


Thinner paint means it should flow more easily and cover the surface smoother. Two coats is to help build up the colour as, with watered down paint, you've clearly reduced the density of the pigment in the paint that gives it its colour.


Note I assume you are basing the model with primer first before applying paint


Yeah I prime with black spray can.

I've seen a few tutorials on that channel and they're amazing but I feel like he always skip over how to thin the paints, he just "does it"

Also thanks for the "loading" tip. I'll try to pay attention to that


Hmm...



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 Ghaz wrote:
 Kelrash wrote:
 Overread wrote:
The idea is to add water until the paint has the rough same consistency as milk. So the amount of water varies a little depending on the paint a bit.

Once you've mixed paint and water together and you're putting paint on the brush one tip is to wipe some paint off on the pallet and to roll the brush head so that the paint covers all sides of it rather than being loaded on just one side.

You might find that to get an even coat on the model you have to paint two coats of paint over the surface of the colour you're choosing to use.


The painting tutorials here might well help you out:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwdh3MTrFq3sXlB4ct8B-Fg


Thinner paint means it should flow more easily and cover the surface smoother. Two coats is to help build up the colour as, with watered down paint, you've clearly reduced the density of the pigment in the paint that gives it its colour.


Note I assume you are basing the model with primer first before applying paint


Yeah I prime with black spray can.

I've seen a few tutorials on that channel and they're amazing but I feel like he always skip over how to thin the paints, he just "does it"

Also thanks for the "loading" tip. I'll try to pay attention to that


Hmm...




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