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Hi all, I have 2 Start Collecting Tzeentch boxes and I was hoping to transition it into some Thousand Sons models to hit 2000 points. I was curious which models melded well with each other from each faction. Not looking to go super hardcore competitive, but I would like to make it competent. Thanks in advance for any suggestions/insights!
   
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba






highly viable. Tzeentch Daemons provide your anti-infantry capabilities for the most part, and Thousand Sons provide your anti-elite. Pink Horrors are your chaff clearers, along with Flamers. Bring a Defiler or some Predators for anti-tank alongside your inevitable exalted flamers, bring some rubrics in rhinos for anti marine shooting, grab Ahriman on a Disc for a general psychic beatstick, and maybe some Spear Enlightened to sub in for Screamers if you don't like screamers.

The one unit DTz kind of make redundant is the ever popular Tzaangors. 30 pinks deep striking in and clearing out all the enemy horde units and then basically telling the opponent "hey we're here, deal with us" is exactly the same thing tzaangors do dropping in, warptiming, and charging enemy chaff. That's not a bad thing really - I know a lot of Tsons players are unhappy with the need to bring a big block of 30 tzaangors, and if you prefer the pink models, they're more or less the same role.

"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




I agree. Tzaangor Enlightened do synergize well with Tzeench Daemons though, since all models on discs have the Daemon keyword and can benefit from herald buffs and Tzeentch spells as well as TSons spells and stratagems. Enlightened with divining spears serve much the same role as Screamers, not hitting quite as hard but costing half as much. Enlightened with bows function like Rubrics with worse saves and much greater speed and flexibility.
   
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Combat Jumping Rasyat




East of England

Welp, Scotsman pretty much covered what I was going to say. Although I will add that Pinks and Tzaangors work really well together, presuming you have warptime available to cast in range.

1) DS Pinks near a Herald, about 14" from bubblewrap
2) DS Tzaangor blob in front of them, as close as possible to the wrap.
3) Cast flickering flames on Pinks with Herald
4) Cast Warptime on the Tzaangors to get them nice and close
5) Destroy all chaff with you Pink murder machine
6) charge juicy backfield targets with Tzaangors, now that bubblewrap has evaporated.
   
 
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