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I started this to focus solely on kroot units and vespids. For those of you who want to use them, what is the best way to do so? What uses do they have? How have they been performing with the new codex? The way I see it, kroot ended up in an odd spot...but probably the one they should have always been in. They are cheap, expendable units without a real battlefield role apart from screening. Sure, 3+ to hit in close combat and str 4 (with the weapon bonus) isn't bad, but with only 1 attack and a 6+ save...ehh. However, with the kroot hounds being even cheaper and their re-roll failed charges if the target suffered a wound in the shooting phase does pair well with a unit of kroot carnivores firing a bit to soften a target up. 3+ to hit in close combat, 2 attacks, -1 ap for the cost of a guardsman means they could easily make back their points. The shaper is obviously only worth it if you take 2 full squads of carnivores to maximize his reroll 1's to wound buff, I suppose.

Vespid on the other hand, wow! At only slightly more than a marine, the vespid comes in a perhaps the cheapest jump unit with a fantastic move of 14" and deepstrike. Fly keyword adds to their uses as anti-air. Now with an 18-inch range, their gun is solid with 2 str 5 ap -2 shots. Reserving a group of 5 would be inexpensive, but very useful to hold in reserves for a turn or two, while you deal with screens etc. They can then deepstrike in and help finish off vital targets that have been wounded, or counter enemy units left to take objectives, etc.

So, I plan on taking 2 units of 10 Kroot, and prob 2 units of 5 Vespid.

Essentially the Kroot are there only for one thing – Vanguard move and deep strike bubble wrap. Not expecting or wanting anything else from them.

The Vespid however, I see as having an interesting role. These would be “latish” game deep strike units, that will drop into cover on backfield objectives and target weak backfield infantry units. Ideally they will stay off the table til turn 3, as, hopefully by that point, the chances of them getting destroyed instantly next turn will have dropped significantly.
Would play a role similar to Swooping Hawks.

I love the vespids. Then I look at the tzaangor enlightened which is basically the exact same thing, only with extra range, an invul save and 2 wounds each for only 1 point more and I feel bad. But then I look at the vespids again and I love them again. I will be playing them in most of my lists. I even decided that I will use alternative models for them, namely the "Greater good" girl models from wargame exclusive website. The reason is that my army is being painted in a TRON theme and I cannot find a way to justify insect like beasts in there.

topaxygouroun i wrote:
I love the vespids. Then I look at the tzaangor enlightened which is basically the exact same thing, only with extra range, an invul save and 2 wounds each for only 1 point more and I feel bad. But then I look at the vespids again and I love them again. I will be playing them in most of my lists. I even decided that I will use alternative models for them, namely the "Greater good" girl models from wargame exclusive website. The reason is that my army is being painted in a TRON theme and I cannot find a way to justify insect like beasts in there.

Your army is based around computer(s) - slotting in some "bugs" should be easy.

Here ya go - a nice kit that turns T'au into Vespids!

http://www.reddogminis.com/catalog/item/9023820/10336153.htm

That kit is a pretty nice way to model Vespids.