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I think this will probably be the final form this army will take. I think I tried to many gimmicks on my other lists.
It also adds exactly to 2000 points.

MT Scions regiment usually take their namesakes from predators, birds, or mythical creatures, so I decided to do a mix.
This is the 7th Alphic Rocs.

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++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [49 PL, 1000pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Gametype: Matched

Regimental Doctrine: Millitarum Tempestus

+ HQ +

Tempestor Prime [3 PL, 45pts]: Chainsword, Master of Command, Tempestus Command Rod, Warlord

Tempestor Prime [3 PL, 45pts]: Chainsword, Tempestus Command Rod

Tempestor Prime [3 PL, 45pts]: Chainsword, Tempestus Command Rod

+ Troops +

Militarum Tempestus Scions [5 PL, 124pts]
. 5x Scion: 5x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 62pts]
. 2x Scion: 2x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 62pts]
. 2x Scion: 2x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol

+ Elites +

Militarum Tempestus Command Squad [3 PL, 55pts]
. Tempestus Scion: Hot-Shot Lasgun
. Tempestus Scion: Hot-Shot Lasgun
. Tempestus Scion w/ Medi-pack: Hot-shot Laspistol, Medi-pack
. Tempestus Scion w/ Platoon Standard: Hot-Shot Lasgun, Platoon Standard

Militarum Tempestus Command Squad [3 PL, 88pts]
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun

Militarum Tempestus Command Squad [3 PL, 88pts]
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun

+ Flyer +

Valkyries [8 PL, 150pts]
. Valkyrie: Hellstrike Missiles, Lascannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Taurox Prime [6 PL, 114pts]: Taurox Gatling Cannon, Two Hot-shot Volley Guns

Taurox Prime [6 PL, 122pts]: Taurox Battle Cannon, Two Hot-shot Volley Guns

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [49 PL, 1000pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Regimental Doctrine: Millitarum Tempestus

+ HQ +

Tempestor Prime [3 PL, 45pts]: Chainsword, Tempestus Command Rod, The Tactical Auto-Reliquary of Tyberius

Tempestor Prime [3 PL, 45pts]: Chainsword, Tempestus Command Rod

Tempestor Prime [3 PL, 45pts]: Chainsword, Tempestus Command Rod

+ Troops +

Militarum Tempestus Scions [5 PL, 124pts]
. 5x Scion: 5x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 62pts]
. 2x Scion: 2x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 62pts]
. 2x Scion: 2x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol

+ Elites +

Militarum Tempestus Command Squad [3 PL, 55pts]
. Tempestus Scion: Hot-Shot Lasgun
. Tempestus Scion: Hot-Shot Lasgun
. Tempestus Scion w/ Medi-pack: Hot-shot Laspistol, Medi-pack
. Tempestus Scion w/ Platoon Standard: Hot-Shot Lasgun, Platoon Standard

Militarum Tempestus Command Squad [3 PL, 88pts]
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun

Militarum Tempestus Command Squad [3 PL, 88pts]
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun
. Tempestus Scion: Plasma gun

+ Flyer +

Valkyries [8 PL, 150pts]
. Valkyrie: Hellstrike Missiles, Lascannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Taurox Prime [6 PL, 114pts]: Taurox Gatling Cannon, Two Hot-shot Volley Guns

Taurox Prime [6 PL, 122pts]: Taurox Battle Cannon, Two Hot-shot Volley Guns

++ Total: [98 PL, 2000pts] ++

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Love this list. I've been running something similar, but trying to find a solution to screens. How do you kill screens to allow your plasma access to the core of an opponents' army? I tried ThunderCav charging in and Admech Kastelan Robots, but I'd love to figure it out with an all Scions list. Do you have any battle reports anywhere?

 InquisitorMack wrote:
Love this list. I've been running something similar, but trying to find a solution to screens. How do you kill screens to allow your plasma access to the core of an opponents' army? I tried ThunderCav charging in and Admech Kastelan Robots, but I'd love to figure it out with an all Scions list. Do you have any battle reports anywhere?

Unfortunately, no. This is my first army list and I won't have the money to buy it for some time, so I wanted to run ideas through the forum. But I imagined that if I need to get through a screen of, say, infantry, I would probably send in a 5 man squad or two with the HSVG. I was imagining that by turn 3, if I had not found a good opportunity to place them earlier, I would grav-insert the two 10 man squad close enough that Storm Troopers would kick in, the half-range characteristic of the hot-shot lasguns would bump from Rapid Fire 1 to 2, and I'd have the Tempestor Prime order FRFSRF and Take Aim! for Rapid Fire 2 to Rapid Fire 3 and re-rolling ones, plus whatever other order may be necessary. That would come out to 15 hot-shot lasgun shots and 16 hot-shot volley gun shots for 31 shot total. 62 total for both 10 mans, plus 20 to 40 with the Taurox Prime Gatling Cannons. Besides, if I have to face more armor, I could up my chances with the MT exclusive Elimination Protocol, Sanctioned! order for re-rolling wounds on vehicles and monsters.

Grav insert is 9.00001 inches away from enemy units so the half range Doctrine won't activate on the lasguns, but the hotshot volley guns are good. (18" vs. 24" range). But it looks like you'll still have enough firepower to get the job done.

True, I forgot about that. Perhaps I could put the ten mans in the Valkyries and drop them, then grab-insert the Tempestor Prime.

Volley guns are Heavy, so there's no way to increase their RoF... if I read your math correctly that sounds like what you're trying to do.

In a ten man scion squad I get 4 HSVG, so that is 16 shots, plus the 15 shot from the five lasgun scions, so 31 total shots, unless I’m mistaken.

 Apple Peel wrote:
In a ten man scion squad I get 4 HSVG, so that is 16 shots, plus the 15 shot from the five lasgun scions, so 31 total shots, unless I’m mistaken.

In Rapid Fire Range, with an officer ordering you, yes, and having suffered no casulities. It's an optomistic and unrealistic situation for the tabletop, however.

 Apple Peel wrote:
In a ten man scion squad I get 4 HSVG, so that is 16 shots, plus the 15 shot from the five lasgun scions, so 31 total shots, unless I’m mistaken.

Sorry, I thought you were doubling HSVGs from the 5 man squad... my error.

AdmiralHalsey wrote:

 Apple Peel wrote:
In a ten man scion squad I get 4 HSVG, so that is 16 shots, plus the 15 shot from the five lasgun scions, so 31 total shots, unless I’m mistaken.

In Rapid Fire Range, with an officer ordering you, yes, and having suffered no casulities. It's an optomistic and unrealistic situation for the tabletop, however.

Assuming they only jump out of the Valkyrie and that is their first turn on the ground, then this would be more likely to happen.

Considering 10 man jump out of the valkyrie, atleast one of them should die (1,66666666... to be excact i belive) because of the grav insertion. You run 4 HSVG, chances are that if 1 model dies (already optimisitc) that it hits in 40% of the jump situation a HSVG guy. Considering this i guess the whole scenario that you propose is way too optimistic.

Now let us assume only one guy wasn't able to parachute properly and got killed by the jump (slightly optimistic situation) for sake of easier estimations.
Since you run 2 squads per Valkyrie the composition looks like 2 commanders, 4 HSVG's and 4 "cannonfodders" .
Statistically you have a 20% chance of loosing your seargent, 40% of a HSVG dieing and 40 % of "worthless cannonfodder" (still a scion). So you should estimate a 40 / 60 scenario regarding the effectivity of such a squad.
Remember also that this is a optimistic scenario, normally you would have to add annother 2/3rds of a loss, so you deal with -2/-4 shots atleast, if you lose a commander, that means no orders i belive (don't quote me on that, considering i am a R&H player so my knowledge about scions is lackluster).


It is the same problem i run in with my Marauders which i use in a similar fashion, my main concern is, that you will run into screening units. Boyz mobs, renegade guard milita with voxes, Conscripts, etc. Even if you get lucky and manage to dent the blob or even eliminate it, that still makes an expensive unit standing around which has only 4+ armor, so they will easily be taken out by some small arms fire, by other screening units, whilest the core of your enemies army still stands admidst his other screens unscathed.