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KDK (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [106 PL, 1998pts]
Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines)
No Force Org Slot
Legion
Selections: World Eaters

HQ
Exalted Champion
Selections: Mark of Khorne, Plasma pistol, Power maul

Kharn the Betrayer

Troops
Khorne Berzerkers
Selections: Icon of Wrath
Berzerker Champion
Selections: Chainaxe, Power fist
7x Chainsword and Chainaxe
Selections: 7x Chainaxe

Khorne Berzerkers
Selections: Icon of Wrath
Berzerker Champion
Selections: Chainaxe, Power fist
7x Chainsword and Chainaxe
Selections: 7x Chainaxe

Khorne Berzerkers
Selections: Icon of Wrath
Berzerker Champion
Selections: Chainaxe, Power fist
7x Chainsword and Chainaxe
Selections: 7x Chainaxe

Fast Attack
Chaos Bikers
Selections: Icon of Wrath, Mark of Khorne
Chaos Biker
Selections: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
Chaos Biker
Selections: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
Chaos Biker
Selections: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
Chaos Biker
Selections: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
Chaos Biker
Selections: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
Chaos Biker Champion
Selections: Chainsword, Combi-bolter

Dedicated Transport
Chaos Rhino
Selections: Combi-bolter, Combi-bolter, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Rhino
Selections: Combi-bolter, Combi-bolter, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Rhino
Selections: Combi-bolter, Combi-bolter, Mark of Khorne

Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Daemons)
No Force Org Slot
Chaos Allegiance
Selections: Khorne

HQ
Daemon Prince of Chaos
Selections: Khorne, Oblivious to Pain, Skullreaver, Warlord

Daemon Prince of Chaos
Selections: Armour of Scorn, Khorne, Malefic talon, Wings

Karanak

Troops

Bloodletters
Selections: 19x Bloodletter, Bloodreaper, Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos

Bloodletters
Selections: 19x Bloodletter, Bloodreaper, Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos

Bloodletters
Selections: 19x Bloodletter, Bloodreaper, Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos

Hey fam, feedback on the above list?

Denizens of the warp on all Bloodletters and daemon prince with skullreaver. Extra relic plus most likely banner of blood will cost 6CP all up. Leaving 7CP which is great for CP starved daemons.

Bikers are to clear screening units to allow for impactful denizens turn 2. I have 3 denies per physic with armor and Karanak. Could swap for crimson crown against weak physic armies. Bikers have chainswords b cause 3x STR4 attacks per bike on the charge.

you need shooting unfortunately in the new meta, none of this will make it across the table before being shot to gak. Depends on your meta though, if you have no gunline armies you'll be fine.

Not a bad roster, it does have some concerns though as the previous post mentioned. You're essentially bringing a gun to a knife fight. You have no real threat saturation. It's going to be at least 2-3 turns before your rhino's get where they need to be and your berserkers are ready for a charge - you only have 1 smoke on the rhino's and that's likely going to be used first turn during advance roll's. Additionally, Rhino's are nice but they can be popped quite easily if your opponent has Las or Melta in range. Another thing to consider about the Rhino's is that if your opponent opts to completely ignore your bikers and focus on your Rhino's, what kind of situation will that put you in?

You're susceptible to flyers. You've a nominal amount of shooting and only 1 DP with wing. Consider Helbrutes with Las (they too get the legion trait, goes great with a power scourge), also consider Obliterators or Havoks.

Your bikers are fast absolutely but they really have no power. I get it, they can tie up any potential shooting units but what then?

You have a bit of Psychic defense but a lot of it is based on CP's which makes me nervous. Just a careful consideration from me, maybe try to incorporate some Flesh Hounds or DP with the Brass Collar. Perhaps a subtle nod to the 7th Ed. Gore Pack detachment where your Flesh Hounds and Bikers are speeding down the field searching for victims.

The Daemons will absolutely get work done. I feel like you're a bit overkill on Daemons though. One or two units of 20 should suffice. Also, maybe consider running the DP with wings as the CSM variant that way you can get some re-roll benefits for any potential shooters you might incorporate.

I haven't used Kharn. I feel like including him is putting all your eggs in one basket. World Eaters are great at introducing cheaper characters that can murder.

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eternalxfl wrote:


The Daemons will absolutely get work done. I feel like you're a bit overkill on Daemons though. One or two units of 20 should suffice.

You need a whole 3 units for the detachment, though, and there are no other choices for a Khorne list than 3xBloodletter units.

For the bloodletters I'd go with a squad of 30, 20 & 10. The squad of 10 can be the sacrificial lamb to eat up over watch, then the other larger squads will retain their +1 to hit because they have 20+ models. If they are all squads of 20 of they lose just one model you lose that +1.

Thanks for the feedback! Hoping this list in more on track with what i want and what i need.

Added some ranged firepower with 8x Lascannons on Havocs and thrown in the Chaos Lord to babysit and give them re-rolls of 1's.

Consolidated daemons detachment into the single 30-man bloodletter bomb + DP which i think is more focused. Added some hounds for a screening unit and still keep some Deny (2 Hounds units + Armour of Scorn).

World Eaters + Daemons (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [105 PL, 1997pts]

Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [68 PL, 1276pts]
No Force Org Slot
Legion
Selections: World Eaters

HQ [15 PL, 250pts]
Chaos Lord [5 PL, 78pts]
Selections: Bolt pistol, Mark of Khorne, Power sword

Dark Apostle [5 PL, 83pts]
Selections: Mark of Khorne, Plasma pistol, Power maul

Exalted Champion [5 PL, 89pts]
Selections: Mark of Khorne, Plasma pistol, Power fist

Troops [27 PL, 474pts]
Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 158pts]
Selections: Icon of Wrath
Berzerker Champion
Selections: Chainaxe, Power fist
7x Chainsword and Chainaxe
Selections: 7x Chainaxe

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 158pts]
Selections: Icon of Wrath
Berzerker Champion
Selections: Chainaxe, Power fist
7x Chainsword and Chainaxe
Selections: 7x Chainaxe

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 158pts]
Selections: Icon of Wrath
Berzerker Champion
Selections: Chainaxe, Power fist
7x Chainsword and Chainaxe
Selections: 7x Chainaxe

Heavy Support [14 PL, 330pts]
Havocs [7 PL, 165pts]
Selections: Mark of Khorne
Aspiring Champion
Selections: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
Havocs w/ heavy weapon
Selections: Lascannon x4

Havocs [7 PL, 165pts]
Selections: Mark of Khorne
Aspiring Champion
Selections: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
Havocs w/ heavy weapon
Selections: Lascannon x4

Dedicated Transport [12 PL, 222pts]
Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 74pts]
Selections: Combi-bolter, Combi-bolter, Mark of Khorne
Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 74pts]
Selections: Combi-bolter, Combi-bolter, Mark of Khorne
Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 74pts]
Selections: Combi-bolter, Combi-bolter, Mark of Khorne


Patrol Detachment (Chaos - Daemons) [37 PL, 721pts]
No Force Org Slot
Chaos Allegiance
Selections: Khorne
Rewards of Chaos (2 Relics)

HQ [17 PL, 336pts]
Daemon Prince of Chaos [9 PL, 180pts]
Selections: Armour of Scorn, Khorne, Malefic talon, Wings

Daemon Prince of Chaos [8 PL, 156pts]
Selections: Khorne, Oblivious to Pain, Skullreaver, Warlord

Troops [12 PL, 235pts]
Bloodletters [12 PL, 235pts]
Selections: 29x Bloodletter, Bloodreaper, Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos

Fast Attack [8 PL, 150pts]
Flesh Hounds [4 PL, 75pts]
Selections: 5x Flesh Hound

Flesh Hounds [4 PL, 75pts]
Selections: 5x Flesh Hound

We feeling this list or nah still off?

Battalion detachment is +5CP now yeah?

 Sonminiser wrote:
For the bloodletters I'd go with a squad of 30, 20 & 10. The squad of 10 can be the sacrificial lamb to eat up over watch, then the other larger squads will retain their +1 to hit because they have 20+ models. If they are all squads of 20 of they lose just one model you lose that +1.

How exactly would this work?

Let's say that the 10-man squad is sacrificing itself for the 20-man squad because the 30-man squad is fine on its own. Who gets Banner of Blood?

If the 10-man squad declares a charge to soak up overwatch than they will need to make it to combat with a successful charge. If they don't make it than the unit can then overwatch the 20-man squad in turn. An 8" charge (+1 for instrument) is below a 50:50 chance.