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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/10 13:50:34
Subject: [2000] - Space Marines - Ultramarines+Dark Angels
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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+++ 103 - Ultramarines (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) +++
++ Patrol Detachment (Imperium - Space Marines) ++
**Chapter Selection**: Ultramarines
+ HQ +
Chief Librarian Tigurius: 1) Veil of Time, 2) Might of Heroes, 6) Null Zone
+ Troops +
5x Tactical Squad w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher
+ Heavy Support +
10x Hellblaster: Plasma Incinerator
++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Imperium - Space Marines) ++
**Chapter Selection**: Ultramarines
+ Lord of War +
Roboute Guilliman: Warlord Trait: Adept of the Codex
++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Dark Angels) ++
+ HQ +
Ravenwing Talonmaster: Shroud of Heroes
+ Fast Attack +
5x Ravenwing Black Knights
+ Heavy Support +
5x Devastators: 3x Plasma cannon
5x Devastators: 3x Plasma cannon
10x Hellblaster: Heavy Plasma Incinerator
++ Total: [103 PL, 2000pts] ++
Game Plan: I wanted to build a mobile shooting force supported by a powerful plasma firebase at 36" range. Guilliman, Tigurius, Hellblasters, Talonmaster and Black Knights press forward. For the most part the theme is to rain plasma on everybody. Missile Launcher is there for Flakk Missile stratagem.
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1. Tyranids - 15,000 pts
2. Chaos Space Marines - 7,100 pts
3. Space Marines - 6,000 pts
4. Orks - 5,900 pts
5. Dark Angels - 4,300 pts
6. Necrons - 4,600 pts
7. Grey Knights - 3,200 pts
8. Eldar - 3,400 pts
9. Blood Angels - 3,200 pts
10. Chaos Daemons - 3,200 pts
11. Tau Empire - 3,000 pts
12. Space Wolves - 2,400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/10 14:54:35
Subject: [2000] - Space Marines - Ultramarines+Dark Angels
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Stubborn Prosecutor
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Right off the bat, why are the hellblasters all Dark Angels? Weapons of the Dark Age is a fantastic strategem, but only applies to DA models.
Also I think you've erred on the side of too much gunline. You have only 3 CP (0 for patrol, -1 for aux, +1 for spearhead) which means you'll be pressed hard to reroll those critical hits you need to finish a model off. Worse you can only pull the WotDA stragem off once before you don't have the CP to trigger it any more.
I'd swap Tigerius out for a normal librarian, drop the UM hellbalsters and fill up on either scouts (for area control) or intercessors (for a screen). Get a battaltion (for a total of 8CP) and then you can get two rounds of Weapons of the Dark Age or some clutch rerolls. Better yet, it takes time to chew through scouts (in cover) or intercessors, time you can use to blast apart the enemy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/11 01:48:17
Subject: [2000] - Space Marines - Ultramarines+Dark Angels
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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Thanks for responding. Some things you seemed to have missed however...
#1 - There is no -1 penalty for an LoW auxiliary you are confusing this detachment with the other one.
#2 - Guilliman is warlord granting me 3cp off the bat.
#3 - I have 6 cp total to play with in this list and on a 5+ Guilliman lets me get cp back for every cp spent.
So yeah I plan on using Weapons from a Dark Age for quite a number of turns throughout the game hopefully getting it for free with Guilliman refunds. On average I should be getting back 2cp per game so my expected cp count is at a comfortable 8
The Heavy incinerator hellblasters are Dark Angels because they will benefit from their own reroll 1s without any support.
Guilliman GREATLY boosts the damage output of the standard hellblasters I have played this time and again and they are murder incarnate with guilliman and tigurius boosting them. That's my trump card
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1. Tyranids - 15,000 pts
2. Chaos Space Marines - 7,100 pts
3. Space Marines - 6,000 pts
4. Orks - 5,900 pts
5. Dark Angels - 4,300 pts
6. Necrons - 4,600 pts
7. Grey Knights - 3,200 pts
8. Eldar - 3,400 pts
9. Blood Angels - 3,200 pts
10. Chaos Daemons - 3,200 pts
11. Tau Empire - 3,000 pts
12. Space Wolves - 2,400 pts |
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