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I couldn't find any new information since 2015 about whether one should start with 10 Vanguards or 10 Rangers (or even 5/5) and it seems from that time Rangers were considered weaker than Vanguards. My best friend is sending me the Forgebane box by mail, so it'll be a while and I'm just curious about both groups.

MarsStraub wrote:
I couldn't find any new information since 2015 about whether one should start with 10 Vanguards or 10 Rangers (or even 5/5) and it seems from that time Rangers were considered weaker than Vanguards. My best friend is sending me the Forgebane box by mail, so it'll be a while and I'm just curious about both groups.

Rangers are good fodder, they are 7 points for a 4+ and 6++ and they have pretty good guns. Vanguards are good too, it really depends on what you want to do with your infantry.

Kind of the same I think. If memory serves:

Rangers have a 30 inch rapid fire strength 4 gun, on a 6 to wound you get -1 AP.

For a point more Vanguard have assault 2 Strength 3 range 18" guns, on 6s to wound they do 2 damage. Enemy units in assault get -1 T. (One of these things which sounds really good, but since Vanguard are pretty terrible in assault its not going to come up much.)

Both tend to be used principally as screening units rather than a significant fire base in themselves.

Tyel wrote:
Kind of the same I think. If memory serves:

Rangers have a 30 inch rapid fire strength 4 gun, on a 6 to wound you get -1 AP.

For a point more Vanguard have assault 2 Strength 3 range 18" guns, on 6s to wound they do 2 damage. Enemy units in assault get -1 T. (One of these things which sounds really good, but since Vanguard are pretty terrible in assault its not going to come up much.)

Both tend to be used principally as screening units rather than a significant fire base in themselves.

Vanguard guns are assault 3 IRC.

w1zard wrote:
Vanguard guns are assault 3 IRC.

Yeah you are right. Was wondering why because otherwise they would obviously be worse.

Rangers are cool now.

Rangers i've found are pretty good screens, and that 6++ makes a world of difference for surviving more than one round.

They are actually amazing. Hard to say if they are better than fire warriors or not.