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As the new codex is coming out soon
I thought I'd get together an ork list to build towards. Can't see too drastic changes happening to the good stuff in the army (I reckon they'll be more about buffing the elite units and vehicles). Thoughts and ideas are welcome!

3 battalions total, so 18 CP

2 Warbosses with klaws
3 weirdboyz with da jump
1 painboy

5 squads of 30 Boyz with power klaw
4 squads of 10 gretchin
2 x 30 stormboyz with power klaw

Might be a few points over. Can drop a few odd Boyz or stormboyz if needed.

Could see myself running this with deathskulls, evil suns or maybe blood axes (presuming the leaks are accurate!)

Seems about par for the course for orks lists. I might actually drop one of the PKs on the warbosses for 'eadwoppa's killchoppa. It's a great source of mortal wounds, and is cheaper in points. I'd also mix in some big choppas into the boyz squads, too. Probably a 4/2 split between PKs and BCs. BCs are better for light infantry killing.

I'd also consider swapping the painboy for a big mek with KFF. The range on it is greater and generally more flexible. Also, a 5++ is better than a 6+/6+++ due to boyz completely losing their armor save with any AP weapons at all.

Also, having 3 weirdboyz all with da jump isn't the best of strategies due to the restriction of only being able to use one psychic power per turn. I'd have at least one with Warpath. That +1 attack is amazing. Cast warpath on a 30 boyz squad, jump them behind enemy lines, suddenly you have a choppa squad with 5 attacks each.

Cheers for the input! The relic is a good idea - will swap one klaw out. Hopefully they'll have better relics in the new Dex.

Not convinced on the big choppas in the Boyz squads though, if there's one thing I'm sorted for it's light infantry. The klaws and smite are my token nod towards anti tank!

Warpath is a good shout. Will definitely take one with that

I like the idea of the painboy more than the big mek as he doesn't force units to bunch up as much. Sure he'll only provide his buff to two or three units, but at least those units can cover a huge amount more area. I guess both work in their own way

As much as it pains me to say this is about the best Orks can do at the moment. My only advice is, in terms of logistics and transportation do you really want to play an army of 259 models whose only strategy is to get into melee or lose?

Yep I'm all about the hordes. I'm fine with playing super fast and my models are all varnished for decent protection.

Hoping for some fun extras to be thrown in with the codex. Would really like rokkits to go down in price to include them in the horde to help against knights and other big nasties.


Even if I don't make good melee happen, should be able to score objectives well!

 Spartan089 wrote:
As much as it pains me to say this is about the best Orks can do at the moment. My only advice is, in terms of logistics and transportation do you really want to play an army of 259 models whose only strategy is to get into melee or lose?

Actually you don't even really need to go into melee. Nor will you likely get from all the enemy shooting. How orks currently win is board control and sitting on objectives while having THREAT of melee keeping enemy far from objectives(in which you sit) blowing your army to bits. Hopefully slow enough that the game ends before they dare to poke their head out of their deployment zone.

Painboy is an Elite choice IIRC.

I had realised this after writing the list

I guess could swap out for a big mek, or just drop down to 2 battalions. Or keep painboy and mek and lose some of the tide...

 Vitali Advenil wrote:

I'd also consider swapping the painboy for a big mek with KFF. The range on it is greater and generally more flexible. Also, a 5++ is better than a 6+/6+++ due to boyz completely losing their armor save with any AP weapons at all..

And D2+ weapons(knight stomps, avenger cannons etc etc etc etc. D2 is no more anti tank weapon property) will pretty much make 6+++ worth nothing and eat tons of time.

Yeah, I'd certainly not bother to roll 6+++ against D2 weapons, that's not worth anyone's time!

I'll give the mek a try. Still can't help but think it'd be pretty hard to keep the 30 boy units in the buff bubble though. I'm very tempted to go deathskulls when the new book comes out just so I can get invuln protection without having to bunch up so much.

Don't think the KFF works against knight stomps btw - pretty sure it's just shooting?

My tried and true list is basically:
Warboss and Meganobz with schorchas. throw them in a truckk with rokkit

20 Boyz battlewagon nob big choppa
20 boyz battlewagon nob big choppa

Then I go with a big mek power armor KFF
My fast attack is deffkoptas with rokkits to spot kill early long shot units and problem units.

Then add either a green tide formation or a couple maxxed squads of boys and make it entirely shooty.

basic stratagy is overwhelm one side as fast as possible. Get the trukk of death in their face turn one, run the big squad and zoom the battlewagons too.
opponent will have to eliminate the trukk and incredibly hard to kill dudes turn one, while you spot kill the majority of D weapons and problamatic star units with the deffkoptas.
having failed to do that, turn two is where you shine. your big mobs will be able to charge and your battlewagons unload and block line of sight to whatever is left over from the meganob star. They will probably counter and try to eliminate the wagons. They will probably dedicate everything to the mass of dudes coming at their face on their flank.
Take one deffkopta back and secure backrow objectives and use the others to assault any shooty unit giving you trouble.
By this time you should have a feel for what you need to clean up the game, keep them there but move your shooty orks back a ways and secure their midfield objectives/ their deployment objectives...

Conclusion- most people have a single ork list, however orks are very much a counter meta army. Moreso they take great skill and knowledge in how to play. If you go against nids for example take as many big shootas and lootas as possible. If you go against tau then you get bikes. Eldar is probably the biggest problem and even then just make deffkoptas and a KFF mek on bike and youll probably be ok. They adjust a lot based on what you are playing against, not just in strategy but core units.

all ork lists should include big mek w/ kff