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Hey, I'm looking for pointers as this is most of my collection. ( extra guardsmen, some arco flaggelents, 1 penitent engine, Converted Exorcist, Sisters rhino and thats it ) 99% WWSWWG. Need advice on making this list a better TAC list.

1) Where to put warlord? Tank Commander, hiding Company Comander or Cannoness
2) Dominion Squad( w/ flamers) in Sisters detachment is just there to fill out the Outrider Detachment and get that extra Cmd point. Worth it or should i do something else?
3) The Retributors are configured in such a way to take advantage of the Holy Trinity Strategem. Can this be done from within the Repressor? If not should i commit more bodies to this squad, or run with a arco flaggelent squad or run the extra Dominions along with them ( couldn't scout forward though).
4) FYI not interested in getting Celestine, i know shes great but more interested in finishing up what I have then starting new projects.

Basic strategy is to overwhelm a flank with Tank Commander and veterans ambushing with mechanized infantry ( flamer squads) in support. Sisters go where needed. Platoon Cmder Dagger's in Heavy weapon squad turn 1 to keep them alive. Everything else is self explanatory I think.

CC appreciated!!

++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [83 PL, 1314pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Imperial Commander's Armoury: 1 additional Heirloom of Conquest, -1 CP

Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Tallarn

+ HQ +

Company Commander [2 PL, 31pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword, Grand Strategist, Warlord

Company Commander [2 PL, 31pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword, Relic: The Laurels of Command

Tank Commander [12 PL, 202pts]: Display Tank Orders, Heavy Bolters, Heavy Stubber, Lascannon
. Command Battle Tank: Battle Cannon

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 47pts]
. 8x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer
. Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 47pts]
. 8x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer
. Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 44pts]
. 8x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher
. Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 44pts]
. 8x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher
. Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 52pts]
. 6x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher
. Heavy Weapon Team: Heavy bolter
. Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 67pts]
. 2x Scion
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol

+ Elites +

Astropath [1 PL, 26pts]: Laspistol, Nightshroud

Platoon Commander [2 PL, 20pts]: Chainsword, Display Astra Militarum Orders, Relic: The Dagger of Tu'Sakh, Shotgun

Ratlings [2 PL, 45pts]
. 5x Ratling: 5x Sniper Rifle

Veterans [5 PL, 93pts]
. Veteran Sergeant: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
. 5x Veteran w/ Lasgun
. Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Veteran w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster

Veterans [5 PL, 93pts]
. Veteran Sergeant: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
. 5x Veteran w/ Lasgun
. Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Veteran w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster

+ Fast Attack +

Armoured Sentinels [3 PL, 40pts]
. Armoured Sentinel: Plasma Cannon

Scout Sentinels [3 PL, 41pts]
. Scout Sentinel: Hunter-killer missile, Multi-laser

Scout Sentinels [3 PL, 41pts]
. Scout Sentinel: Hunter-killer missile, Multi-laser

+ Heavy Support +

Basilisks [7 PL, 108pts]
. Basilisk: Heavy Bolter

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 53pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team: Autocannon
. Heavy Weapon Team: Missile launcher
. Heavy Weapon Team: Autocannon

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 33pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chimera [6 PL, 78pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Stubber

Chimera [6 PL, 78pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Stubber

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Adeptus Ministorum) [40 PL, 685pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Order Convictions: Order: Argent Shroud

+ HQ +

Canoness [3 PL, 52pts]: Chainsword, Inferno pistol, Relic: Blade of Admonition

Missionary [2 PL, 35pts]: Autogun, Laspistol

+ Fast Attack +

Dominion Squad [5 PL, 111pts]
. Dominion Superior: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun

Dominion Squad [10 PL, 94pts]
. 5x Dominion
. Dominion Superior: Bolt pistol, Storm bolter
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Flamer
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Flamer

Seraphim Squad [4 PL, 83pts]
. 2x Seraphim
. Seraphim Superior: Bolt pistol, Bolt pistol
. Seraphim w/ Special Weapons: 2x Inferno Pistols
. Seraphim w/ Special Weapons: 2x Inferno Pistols

+ Heavy Support +

Retributor Squad [6 PL, 105pts]
. Retributor Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
. Retributor w/ Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta
. Retributor w/ Heavy Weapon: Heavy flamer
. Retributor w/ Heavy Weapon: Heavy flamer
. Retributor w/ Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter

+ Dedicated Transport +

Immolator [5 PL, 98pts]: Immolation Flamer

Sororitas Repressor [5 PL, 107pts]: Heavy flamer, Storm bolter

++ Total: [123 PL, 1999pts] ++

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1) I run the warlord as company commander, give them the aquila and the grand strategist and leave him in the rear with the gear pumping orders into my mortar teams. CP farm was nerfed but it's still a great feeling knowing that I am guaranteed at least 5 extra CP through the duration of the game
2) Dominions are great with melta weapons, I ran 3 squads before beta and now I run 2. I would not run flamers since everything else is capable of taking them in the army. What we lack is taking out high Toughness High Wound models. I am testing a 3rd dominion squad that I run 5 storm bolters in to use the blessed bolts strat, I am still on the fence about them but so far so good, its a cheap option and with the strat each bolter goes to -2ap and 2dmg
3) I really think rets are best taken as heavy bolter squads or not at all. Holy trinity strat seems like a waste and you have to get very close to pull it off.
4) Celestine is not so great anymore. I have a new list where I cut her and am putting in 2 leman russ with Battle cannons. She just isn't fast or scary enough and I need something that will be able to pop big things when they concentrate on getting rid of my dominions.

My list right now is a little more balanced between the two (Guard and Sisters), so I cant give you feedback on how such a guard heavy list will play but hopefully the points above help.

The Sisters assortment looks a little limiting... only the melta Dominions are fully optimized. The mixed loadouts are challenging when managing ranges. The IP Seraphim are slow and may not make it to range. If you're squeezing them for 1 CP, why not make it 5? Keep the melta Doms, try to build 3x BSS, 1 with SB+HB and 2 with F+HF. Take a second Canoness and the Book and be a CP generating psyker denying machine.

Revised list, can't shake the party bus Repressor idea. Maybe its not WAAC but i just love the idea of a pyro dakka vehicle. Also put the melta in with the ambushing Vets, since the Scions will drop in outa ideal melta range anyway. And added a Callidus for more back line disruption. Guirella tactics, Alpha with Vets, Tank Commander, Dominions. Better?????


++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [83 PL, 1336pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Imperial Commander's Armoury: 1 additional Heirloom of Conquest, -1 CP

Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Tallarn

+ HQ +

Company Commander [2 PL, 31pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword, Grand Strategist, Warlord

Company Commander [2 PL, 31pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword, Relic: The Laurels of Command

Tank Commander [12 PL, 208pts]: Heavy Bolters, Heavy Stubber, Hunter-Killer Missile, Lascannon
. Command Battle Tank: Battle Cannon

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 47pts]
. 8x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer
. Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 47pts]
. 8x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer
. Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 44pts]
. 8x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher
. Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 44pts]
. 8x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher
. Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 56pts]
. 6x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Heavy Weapon Team: Heavy bolter
. Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 63pts]
. 2x Scion
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol

+ Elites +

Astropath [1 PL, 26pts]: Laspistol, Nightshroud

Platoon Commander [2 PL, 20pts]: Chainsword, Relic: The Dagger of Tu'Sakh, Shotgun

Ratlings [2 PL, 45pts]
. 5x Ratling: 5x Sniper Rifle

Veterans [5 PL, 96pts]
. Veteran Sergeant: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
. 5x Veteran w/ Lasgun
. Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Veteran w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster

Veterans [5 PL, 111pts]
. Veteran Sergeant: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
. 3x Veteran w/ Lasgun
. Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Veteran w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster
. Veteran Weapon Team: Missile launcher

+ Fast Attack +

Armoured Sentinels [3 PL, 40pts]
. Armoured Sentinel: Plasma Cannon

Scout Sentinels [3 PL, 41pts]
. Scout Sentinel: Hunter-killer missile, Multi-laser

Scout Sentinels [3 PL, 41pts]
. Scout Sentinel: Hunter-killer missile, Multi-laser

+ Heavy Support +

Basilisks [7 PL, 108pts]
. Basilisk: Heavy Bolter

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 48pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team: Autocannon
. Heavy Weapon Team: Autocannon
. Heavy Weapon Team: Autocannon

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 33pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chimera [6 PL, 78pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Stubber

Chimera [6 PL, 78pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Stubber

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Adeptus Ministorum) [33 PL, 594pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Order Convictions: Order: Argent Shroud

Use Beta Rules

+ HQ +

Canoness [3 PL, 56pts]: Inferno pistol, Power sword, Relic: Blade of Admonition

+ Fast Attack +

Dominion Squad [5 PL, 58pts]
. Dominion Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter

Dominion Squad [5 PL, 114pts]
. Dominion Superior: Bolt pistol, Combi-flamer
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun

Seraphim Squad [4 PL, 88pts]
. 2x Seraphim
. Seraphim Superior: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
. Seraphim w/ Special Weapons: 2x Inferno Pistols
. Seraphim w/ Special Weapons: 2x Inferno Pistols

+ Heavy Support +

Retributor Squad [6 PL, 73pts]
. 2x Retributor
. Retributor Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
. Retributor w/ Heavy Weapon: Heavy flamer
. Retributor w/ Heavy Weapon: Heavy flamer

+ Dedicated Transport +

Immolator [5 PL, 98pts]: Immolation Flamer

Sororitas Repressor [5 PL, 107pts]: Heavy flamer, Storm bolter

++ Auxiliary Support Detachment -1CP (Imperium - Officio Assassinorum) [5 PL, 70pts] ++

+ Elites +

Callidus Assassin [5 PL, 70pts]

++ Total: [121 PL, 2000pts] ++

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