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ok im not here to troll like seriously what does this big GW campaign thing do like does the winning faction get new models if it isn't imperium( never gonna happen) will they no longer be neglected, will it effect 9th ed what does it do

It gives us an additional setting to get excited about and use to tell narratives with our models and a grander framework to set your battles in beyond immediate winner or loser.

40k is a setting and adding additional material to that setting makes it richer, the 41k section especially needs more fleshing out to get people invested as at the moment we only have a sketchy timeline for the 200 odd years since Guillimans rose from the dead.

Vigilius is sorta the new eye of terror / fate of konor. This is used as a vechicle by GW to deliever narrative points or new models. Mostly to drive new model sales and grab peoples attention. Adding in some flavor for multitudes of different types, from competitive to narrative / fluffy players.

Luckily GW have learned their lesson so now all campaigns are going to be on a backwater non-important planet rather than, say, THE BLOODY CADIAN GATE.

This is the new Cadian gate?! It's one of the two stable paths between the Imperium proper and the Dark Imperium/Imperium Nilihus.

People do like to hear the same stories told over again. I see nothing wrong with vigilus being Cadia 2.0.

Wasn’t Armageddon first?

Either way the setting as described in the book is very entertaining background.

By GW standards its almost well thought one, creating a fluff pivotal location as an excuse for a multi-faction set to, rather than the old "blah grimdark blah doom blah moar grim grimty blah But the universe is a big place and, whatever happens, you will not be missed"


I suspect the release plan is sketched out for a fair while and wont (and shouldn't be) be swayed by play results

Tastyfish wrote:
This is the new Cadian gate?! It's one of the two stable paths between the Imperium proper and the Dark Imperium/Imperium Nilihus.

The second one is important as the imperium can lose vigilus and maintain the status quo

That said, I suspect gw has decided who wins by now

Surely the good guys will win right?

Wait who are the good guys?

 Nithaniel wrote:
Surely the good guys will win right?

Wait who are the good guys?

The Tyranids. Obviously.

 Stux wrote:

 Nithaniel wrote:
Surely the good guys will win right?

Wait who are the good guys?

The Tyranids. Obviously.

Begone vile insect, OR I WILL GET THE DDT!

jk.

The necrons obviously have the most valid claim to the galaxy, what with them beeing the oldest things still alive.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Luckily GW have learned their lesson so now all campaigns are going to be on a backwater non-important planet rather than, say, THE BLOODY CADIAN GATE.

Vigilus is of massive strategic importance to the Imperium, which is precisely why everyone is fighting over it.

It's a lot more important than, say, Medusa V or Ichar IV were/are.

Tastyfish wrote:
This is the new Cadian gate?! It's one of the two stable paths between the Imperium proper and the Dark Imperium/Imperium Nilihus.

The AdMech have been harvesting Blackstone and working on making anti-warp pylons.

Even if both points are lost, GW can still go:
- "but then Cawl used his new pylons to create a path
- "but then Cawl created the new Cawl-Pattern Warp Drive that uses Blackstone to allow ships to pass through the massive warp storm no problem"

And of course:
- "the warp calmed and a new path opened all on its own.

 Nithaniel wrote:
Surely the good guys will win right?

Wait who are the good guys?

There has been conflicts where the good guys did not winn.

I the meen time I enjoyed the writing and new background information.

Also, the new stratgems are cool.

 Niiai wrote:

 Nithaniel wrote:
Surely the good guys will win right?

Wait who are the good guys?

There has been conflicts where the good guys did not winn.

I the meen time I enjoyed the writing and new background information.

Also, the new stratgems are cool.

Interesting cultural difference, because in a lot of places in the world, being the winner automaticly makes you the good guys.

The AdMech have been harvesting Blackstone and working on making anti-warp pylons.

But wouldn't that be commiting tech heresy? Working on non human build hardware is forbiden by post heresy charters of the adeptus. Even the old human tech has to go through a grulling procedure of all branchs of the mechanicus being 100% it aint heresy.

The Officio Assassinourm make use of C'Tan artifacts, and at least two Chapter Masters are using weapons taken from Champions of Chaos. Various Imperial warships are either ships recaptured from Chaos fleets or use systems taken from Chaos or alien ships.

When the Omnissiahs own flesh and blood tells you to do a thing, you do a thing, tech heresy be damned.

Karol wrote:

The AdMech have been harvesting Blackstone and working on making anti-warp pylons.

But wouldn't that be commiting tech heresy? Working on non human build hardware is forbiden by post heresy charters of the adeptus. Even the old human tech has to go through a grulling procedure of all branchs of the mechanicus being 100% it aint heresy.

Forgebane (AdMech vs Necron) boxset was all about AdMech and Necrons fighting over Blackstone and talked about Admech working on making their own pylons.

It's not tech-heresy (well, depending on level of Puritan vs Radical it is).

The Dark Imperium Novels make it clear that Bobby G isn't an idiot and supports/sanctioned Cawl to figure out how the pylons work and replicate them if possible. Cawl is a heritic by traditional standards but his research is beyond useful and so he is protected for now.

HoundsofDemos wrote:
The Dark Imperium Novels make it clear that Bobby G isn't an idiot and supports/sanctioned Cawl to figure out how the pylons work and replicate them if possible. Cawl is a heritic by traditional standards but his research is beyond useful and so he is protected for now.

Yup. Same with Guilliman really. He's a massive heretic by current Imperium standards. Doesn't believe the Emperor was a god, doesn't believe technology is heresy, etc.

He has to put up a facade to the general public and the Ecclesiarchy, because he doesn't have the time or inclination to fight a civil war when the Imperium is in so much danger on other fronts. But he is still at heart a logical pragmatist.

 Stux wrote:

Yup. Same with Guilliman really. He's a massive heretic by current Imperium standards. Doesn't believe the Emperor was a god, doesn't believe technology is heresy, etc.

To be fair MOST Space Marines don't believe the Emperor is a god.