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Regular Dakkanaut




I posted a similar list a while back, and after some play testing, I refined it as best as I could for LVO...

The list focuses on board control. I deep strike the gauss immortals and use the Deceiver to redeploy d3 units before the game starts within +12", which is usually for a stalker to get in range of priority targets, and placement of the doomsday ark. Veil of Darkness is mostly used as a defensive maneuver if tesla immortals get into combat. Otherwise, it's another tool for more board control.

9/10 times I choose ground control, recon, and old school as my secondaries. The Nephrekh trait allows for an auto advance of 6" which has come in clutch several times with my wraiths and scarabs who can, after using a strategem, still charge.

Doom Scythes aim for big targets that have been lit up by the Stalkers for rerolls. They are Sautekh so still shoot at full accuracy. After one of the Scythes connects with a target, the other two shoot the same target with +1 accuracy from the Sautekh strategem. They'll be hitting on 2's with rerolling 1's and their tesla explode on 5's.

I am having a hard time deciding between running my scarabs as 3 units of 3 or 1 unit of 9. Having a unit of 9 has several benefits: 1. fewer drops 2. better use of strategems 3. a potentially big redeploy with the Deceiver's grand illusion 4. less chances of enemy getting first strike/blood. Small units scattered around definitely has merit as well. Would love to hear some thoughts!


2,000 points
13 drops
9 command points



NECRONS NEPHREKH BATTALION DETACHMENT

HQ
Overlord (Warlord - Immortal Pride) - Staff of light [94]
Lord - Veil of Darkness, staff of light [75]

TROOPS
Immortals (10) - 10x gauss blasters [150]
Immortals (10) - 10x tesla carbines [150]
Immortals (10) - 10x tesla carbines [150]

ELITES
C’tan Shard of the Deceiver {Antimatter Meteor, Sky of Falling Stars} [225]
Triarch Stalker - Heat ray [125]

FAST ATTACK
Canoptek Wraiths (6) - 4x particle casters [304]
Canoptek Scarabs (9) [117]

HEAVY SUPPORT
Doomsday Ark [160]


NECRONS SAUTEKH AIR WING DETACHMENT

FLYERS
Doom Scythe [150]
Doom Scythe [150]
Doom Scythe [150]




Automatically Appended Next Post:
made some tweaks to the list. Thanks in advance for input!

This message was edited 6 times. Last update was at 2019/01/10 02:18:23


 
   
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Pile of Necron Spare Parts




Hi, may I ask why it is better to run the Deceiver with Scarabs rather than Wraiths?
   
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator






Hamburg

elook wrote:
Hi, may I ask why it is better to run the Deceiver with Scarabs rather than Wraiths?

Well, both have their merits. For me, its not the question either or.
The Deceiver can give you a tactical advantage during army deployment, Scarabs can be used for screening or as objective holders, and Wraiths are decent in cc. I usually run all three units.

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Rampaging Furioso Blood Angel Dreadnought






Germany

Board control with 50 models ? What if you face a list with 150+ pink horrors, cultists, poxwalkers, etc. ? 3 doom scythes ? Why run three units that can easily get destroyed by your opponent without even firing a single shot, or making a single melee attack ?? One DDA is none. You need at least two to compensate for the randomness of a D6. Drop the doom scythes and get 2 more DDAs. Use the rest of the points on imotekh, to buff the two full units of tesla immortals for free, and one more CP. Wraith with particle casters ? You do know that your opponent gets cover in the shooting phase (if inside terrain), if your wraith are in melee with him ? The heat ray on the stalker is only 24" range, what if your preferred target is farther away ?
   
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How's this as an alternative? Plays similarly as the original list, with the exception of what the Deceiver redeploys.


2,000 points
14 drops
10 command points



NECRONS NEPHREKH BATTALION DETACHMENT

HQ
Lord - Veil of Darkness [75]
Cryptek - Chronometron [95]

TROOPS
Immortals (10) - 10x gauss blasters [150]
Immortals (10) - 10x tesla carbines [150]
Immortals (10) - 10x tesla carbines [150]

ELITES
C’tan Shard of the Deceiver {Antimatter Meteor, Sky of Falling Stars} [225]


NECRONS NEPHREKH OUTRIDER DETACHMENT

HQ
Overlord (Warlord - Immortal Pride) [94]

FAST ATTACK
Canoptek Wraiths (6) [288]
Canoptek Scarabs (8) [104]
Canoptek Scarabs (8) [104]


NECRONS NIHILAKH SPEARHEAD DETACHMENT

HQ
Cryptek - Canoptek cloak [85]

HEAVY SUPPORT
Doomsday Ark [160]
Doomsday Ark [160]
Doomsday Ark [160]

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2019/01/10 18:10:07


 
   
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Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high

The 2nd list is stronger.
The issue with fliers in this edition is that if they have to fly off the board, they're destroyed if they have nowhere to land. Its very stupid.

The nice thing about scarabs is also that they're the best smite screen we have against smite spam armies. Each mortal wound is only 4.33 points, rather than 11 for a warrior, or 15 for an immortal, or 16 for a wraith.

We're in a tough place as far as competitive play goes, so you'll have to play smart and roll well, but this is a solid list.

Bedouin Dynasty: 9000 pts
The Silver Lances: 4k pts

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Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum. 
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




Agreed. Scarabs are perfect candidates for the Deceiver's redeploy, even though they won't be able to charge turn 1.
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




Alright so I've been play testing a bunch of different variances and came up with something that is pretty damn effective. My only concern is the lack of troop choices and so few command points. Would love to hear thoughts on how this can do on an extreme competitive level (planning for LVO).


2,000 points
13 drops
6 command points



NECRONS NEPHREKH OUTRIDER DETACHMENT

HQ
Catacomb Command Barge (Warlord - Skin of Living Gold) - The Nightmare Shroud, tesla cannon [147]

ELITES
C’tan Shard of the Deceiver {Antimatter Meteor, Sky of Falling Stars} [225]

FAST ATTACK
Destroyers (6) [300]
Canoptek Wraiths (6) [288]
Tomb Blades (9) - 9x particle beamers, 9x shieldvanes, 4x shadowlooms [263]


NECRONS NEPHREKH OUTRIDER DETACHMENT

HQ
Cryptek - The Veil of Darkness, chronometron [95]

FAST ATTACK
Canoptek Scarabs (3) [39]
Canoptek Scarabs (3) [39]
Canoptek Scarabs (3) [39]


NECRONS NIHILAKH SPEARHEAD DETACHMENT

HQ
Cryptek - Canoptek cloak [85]

HEAVY SUPPORT
Doomsday Ark [160]
Doomsday Ark [160]
Doomsday Ark [160]
   
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Rampaging Furioso Blood Angel Dreadnought






Germany

First of all, necrons arent competitive, they are lower tier. What are you going to do against a horde (horrors, cultists, poxwalker, etc.) with 150+ models ? What are you going to do against a 10 smites per turn tsons list, maybe even with magnus and his mega 2D6 smite ?

Now, to improve your list. No one uses nightmare shroud, pick lightning field instead for a 4+ inv. I think you are a little light on scarabs, those need to shield your deceiver and the wraith from attacks and smites, hold objectives, try to tie up units in melee. You need to drop a destroyer and/or wraith, and/or a tomb blade. I would suggest at least 3x5 scarabs.
Tomb blades with particle beamers will have a hard time removing anything with 3+ or 4+ sv and cover. Drop the shadowlooms and go with nebuloscopes.
   
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I understand Necrons aren't in the best place, but I do think with the right synergy they can be good. Please let me know what you think of this version.

1. Deepstrike the destroyers
2. Place the immortals out of sight but within the warlord's wave of command and cyptek's veil of darkness
3. Bunch the doomsday arks together somewhere with good board visibility and within range of their cryptek, ideally sitting on an objective
4. The 3 scarab units provide smite screens for wraiths, tomb blades, and doomsday arks.

2,000 points
13 drops
6 command points



NECRONS NEPHREKH OUTRIDER DETACHMENT

HQ
Catacomb Command Barge (Warlord - Skin of Living Gold) - The Nightmare Shroud, tesla cannon, warscythe [146]

TROOPS
Immortals (10) - 10x tesla carbines [150]

FAST ATTACK
Destroyers (6) [300]
Canoptek Wraiths (6) [288]
Tomb Blades (9) - 9x particle beamers, 9x shieldvanes, 9x nebuloscopes [261]


NECRONS NEPHREKH OUTRIDER DETACHMENT

HQ
Cryptek - The Veil of Darkness, chronometron [95]

FAST ATTACK
Canoptek Scarabs (5) [65]
Canoptek Scarabs (5) [65]
Canoptek Scarabs (5) [65]


NECRONS NIHILAKH SPEARHEAD DETACHMENT

HQ
Cryptek - Canoptek cloak [85]

HEAVY SUPPORT
Doomsday Ark [160]
Doomsday Ark [160]
Doomsday Ark [160]

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/01/24 11:20:46


 
   
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Rampaging Furioso Blood Angel Dreadnought






Germany

I think this list is better. Why do you want to use nightmare shroud ? A 2+ sv doesnt help you against anything that is AP-3 or even worse. Im not sure if 10 immortals are a good substitute for the deceiver. 150 pts could get you more tomb blades, which are better point for point.
   
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I like Nightmare shroud for the purposes of how the CCB plays in this list. You're right, he doesn't benefit against weapons AP-3 or better, but he does benefit from AP-2 or less, which is most likely going to be the majority firepower going after him considering quantum shielding decently deflects big guns with high damage and high ap.

As for the immortals issue, you're also right, point for point tomb blades are better. The immortals are there to receive my will be done and veil of darkness. Furthermore, I don't have any other troop choices so I figure having at least 1 will help.
   
Made in ca
Furious Raptor






Cthonia

Your Triarch stalker was fine for the record, and it does work. Its not a high priority target to your opponent it lets those doomsday or doomscythes re rolls the 1's. I own 2 doom scythes and 1 doomsday ark, my new list runs a single stalker because i have it and it looks badass. I think the stalker works well with the DOOMS personally. I never used to like the Catacomb command barge but now im using it to spear head a death ball with Nephrek dynasty, with the artefact lightening field for the tasty 4+ Invuln.

Catacomb command barge with warscythe and lightening field
Cryptek with Veil of darkness and his flying cloak
6 wraiths
6 desryoers
9 scarabs
10 tesla immortals Pro tip advance these guys with the death ball they are 11" movement now and with wave of command they still hit on 3's... There isnt much that survives 6 destroyers + 10 Tesla immortals all in your face re rollings 1 further by your sm captain cough i mean triarch stalker.

the tesla immortals advancing hittin on 3's re rolling 1's exploding 6's is fantastic while moving 11" and this death ball surprises alot of people everyone thinks necrons arent mobile army, thats the biggest joke ever my Necrons are more mobile then most Eldar.

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