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Made in us
Shas'ui with Bonding Knife






I'm a casual player, so I'm not going to try to win a tournament with an MEQ army. But, I'm curious what you all think is the better list.

More models, but fewer wounds per model (very few Primaris):

Spoiler:
++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Dark Angels) [120 PL, 1994, 8CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

Gametype: Matched

+ HQ +

Azrael [9 PL, 180]

Primaris Lieutenants [5 PL, 74]
. Primaris Lieutenant: Bolt pistol, Master-crafted auto bolt rifle

+ Troops +

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 85]: Bolt rifles, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 85]: Bolt rifles, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 85]: Bolt rifles, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant

Tactical Squad [5 PL, 70]: 4x Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Plasma pistol

+ Elites +

Deathwing Knights [12 PL, 185]
. 4x Deathwing Knight: 4x Storm shield
. Knight Master: Storm shield

Primaris Ancient [4 PL, 69]

+ Fast Attack +

Ravenwing Black Knights [23 PL, 228]: Ravenwing Black Knight (Grenade Launcher), Ravenwing Black Knight (Grenade Launcher)
. Ravenwing Black Knight: Corvus Hammer
. Ravenwing Black Knight: Corvus Hammer
. Ravenwing Black Knight: Corvus Hammer
. Ravenwing Huntmaster: Corvus Hammer
. . Black Knight Bike: Plasma Talon

Ravenwing Darkshroud [7 PL, 150]: Assault cannon

Ravenwing Land Speeders [6 PL, 98]
. Ravenwing Land Speeder: Heavy bolter, Typhoon missile launcher

+ Heavy Support +

Devastators [8 PL, 129]
. 4x Space Marine (Plasma Cannon): 4x Plasma cannon
. Space Marine Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

Devastators [8 PL, 155]
. 2x Space Marine (Lascannon): 2x Lascannon
. 2x Space Marine (Missile launcher): 2x Missile launcher
. Space Marine Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

+ Flyer +

Ravenwing Dark Talon [8 PL, 200]: 2x Hurricane bolter

+ Dedicated Transport +

Razorback [5 PL, 89]: Storm bolter, Twin heavy bolter

Razorback [5 PL, 112]: Storm bolter, Twin lascannon


Fewer models, but more wounds per model (almost all Primaris):

Spoiler:
++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Dark Angels) [110 PL, 1992pts] ++

+ HQ +

Azrael [9 PL, 180pts]

Primaris Lieutenants [5 PL, 74pts]
. Primaris Lieutenant: Bolt pistol, Master-crafted auto bolt rifle

Primaris Lieutenants [5 PL, 74pts]
. Primaris Lieutenant: Bolt pistol, Power sword

+ Troops +

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 85pts]: Bolt rifles, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 85pts]: Bolt rifles, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 85pts]: Bolt rifles, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 85pts]: Bolt rifles, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant

+ Elites +

Primaris Ancient [4 PL, 69pts]

Redemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 161pts]: Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod, Onslaught Gatling Cannon
. Storm Bolters: 2x Storm bolter

+ Fast Attack +

Inceptor Squad [10 PL, 135pts]: 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant
. Assault Bolters: Assault bolter

Ravenwing Darkshroud [7 PL, 150pts]: Assault cannon

+ Heavy Support +

Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: 4x Hellblaster, Plasma incinerators
. Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol

Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: 4x Hellblaster, Plasma incinerators
. Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol

+ Flyer +

Ravenwing Dark Talon [8 PL, 200pts]: 2x Hurricane bolter

+ Dedicated Transport +

Repulsor [16 PL, 279pts]: Auto Launchers, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Ironhail Heavy Stubber, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, 2x Krakstorm Grenade Launcher, Twin lascannon
. Storm Bolters: 2x Storm bolter


Thanks in advance!

SG

40K - T'au Empire
Kill Team - T'au Empire, Death Guard
Warhammer Underworlds - Garrek’s Reavers

*** I only play for fun. I do not play competitively. *** 
   
Made in ca
Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot




Canada

basically your asking if hellblasters are better then black knights and the answer is a firm.. situationally.. 7/10 the hellblasters are worse. the black knight isnt just good at shooting, hes good and movement and hes reasonable at melee and hes hard to even hit in his own right which trumps the bonus wound in the blasters baseline and bonus quality of his gun.

the above being said you also feel each casuality on black knights more then hellblasters because max squads are 6 not 10. all in all i dont think either is perticularly all that great when you consider that the str 11+ and me doom cannons stuff are tossing about makes a 4+ invul a lot less useful then it once did.

i rate both lists a 4/10 and recommend the hellblaster castle over the black knights anyway simply because stry wounds wont be felt as bad by the list, even if it means if something does touch them in melee their probably likely to suffer horribly unlike the knights whos corvus hammers might get them out of a jam if its small enough

DA army: 3500pts,
admech army: 600pts
ravenguard: 565 pts

 
   
 
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