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Say for example, Nurgle has a total army of 1,000 Chaos Space Marines. And he sends 200 out to a planet. 100 die. Does the total now stay at 900, or will he replace those 100 that died and just keep making more and more space marines?

Because I know that Loyalist Space Marines are replaced, but if a Chaos God tries to tempt a Space Marine into serving them and becoming a Chaos Space Marine, an Inquisitor will kill them for heresy.

So then how do Chaos Gods keep a solid army of space marines?

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Chaos Space Marines have their own apothecaries and ways of transforming new recruits into astartes, such as the daemonculaba used by Warsmith Honsou. Otherwise they can also rely on a somewhat steady stream of defecting renegade marines to bolster their numbers.

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In dead sky black sun by Graham McNeill chaos marines are grown in big wombs. They're a bit odd but functionally marines.

EDIT: Also hasn't Fabius Bile been up to cloning marines since the heresy?

EDIT 2: And let us not forget that every now and then more marines joins chaos.

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 Ironbeer wrote:
Say for example, Nurgle has a total army of 1,000 Chaos Space Marines. And he sends 200 out to a planet. 100 die. Does the total now stay at 900, or will he replace those 100 that died and just keep making more and more space marines?

Because I know that Loyalist Space Marines are replaced, but if a Chaos God tries to tempt a Space Marine into serving them and becoming a Chaos Space Marine, an Inquisitor will kill them for heresy.

So then how do Chaos Gods keep a solid army of space marines?


The Chaos gods don't send CSM and they also don't need to maintain them (sometimes they resurrect them like Kharn, and probably also many of the HH Legionairies, otherwize it would be questionable why so many of them are still around). The Legions are mostly on their own and also pretty fractured. The Chaos Generals and Daemon Primarchs are the ones' in charge.
Aside from what has been said CSM are also recruited from planets in the warp (like the plague planet for Death Guard) or from slaves/cultists the CSM take from imperial worlds.

Fabius Bile also created Primaris before it was cool, they just weren't as stable as Cawls version, that's why he wants to copy them now.
   
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Chaos Gods themselves don't but Chaos Marines have various methods of doing it themselves.

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In dead sky black sun by Graham McNeill chaos marines are grown in big wombs. They're a bit odd but functionally marines.

EDIT: Also hasn't Fabius Bile been up to cloning marines since the heresy?

EDIT 2: And let us not forget that every now and then more marines joins chaos.

I think Fabius Bile engages in recruiting activities to help finance his research and cause, and there's renegades like Variel. It's something to consider what exactly geneseed does, too. The same geneseed may be recycled through hundreds of candidates, astartes and failed aspirants alike, over the years. It's cloned rather than bred.
   
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 Ironbeer wrote:
Say for example, Nurgle has a total army of 1,000 Chaos Space Marines. And he sends 200 out to a planet. 100 die. Does the total now stay at 900, or will he replace those 100 that died and just keep making more and more space marines?

Because I know that Loyalist Space Marines are replaced, but if a Chaos God tries to tempt a Space Marine into serving them and becoming a Chaos Space Marine, an Inquisitor will kill them for heresy.

So then how do Chaos Gods keep a solid army of space marines?
As noted, there are the Daemon-wombs noted in Dead Sky Black Sun, there are raids to capture or steal geneseed such as on Hydra Cordatus in Storm of Iron, and there are Space Marines who do turn traitor (the 4E CSM codex noting at least 50 full post-heresy Chapters and innumerable companies, squads and individuals turning to Chaos). Bile obviously plays a large part in things for many Chaos forces.

Also, Chaos Space Marines are less...bound by the dictates of reality and cause&effect, the marines spilling out of the Eye or Terror today may have experienced the Siege of Terra just a few subjective years ago, or they may have othereisr been altered or enhanced or extended by the power of the Warp. Their options for tinkering and experimentation are less restricted than those of the Imperium.

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Loads of ways. Cloning, Devices like the Daemoncubala, Stolen gene seed and/or deals with The Consortium, Vagaries of The Warp resulting in multiple of the same CSM, Enhanced humans from the Daemon Worlds that on tabletop would be a CSM in stats, Post heresy renegades etc.

The DG codex even states their legion is larger than it was pre heresy.


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The gods don't care about the legions devoted to them. Its up to them to figure out how to replace battlefield losses. There are cases of world eaters forcing captured enemy through torture (zhufor) to join them. I don't think the death guard really care, decay and all that, but they must replace them somehow as there sure are a lot.

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Something to bear in mind is that anything the Chaos Gods just 'create' is inherently comprised of warp based matter and therefore restricted to areas with high warp density to stay in existence. Which isn't much good when you want to go out and start raiding neighbouring systems.

What they can do, is bend the rules. So for example, they can make a geneseed that might have failed in a candidate viable. They can implant the souls of the dead marines inside the mortal frames of normal humans or other marines (see the Space Wolf trilogy for an example of this). They can force a geneseed implanted in a host to mutate and spawn more geneseed quicker than it otherwise would. And so on.


 
   
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 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
The gods don't care about the legions devoted to them. Its up to them to figure out how to replace battlefield losses. There are cases of world eaters forcing captured enemy through torture (zhufor) to join them. I don't think the death guard really care, decay and all that, but they must replace them somehow as there sure are a lot.


It literally says in the DG codex the legion is larger post heresy. Nurgle's rot does a good job of replacing lost PMs.


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