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Hi guys,

was tinkering around with this list for a while and i think i'm relativly happy now. This should be a competive list that i want to bring to a tournament in the near future.

The plan is relativly simple.
Select the right Assassin before the game, i most cases it's a Vindicare.
Build a Dakka Castle with the Kataphrons and Kastellans. Screen them with Vanguard and Rangers. Let them kill ^^.

Pick out HQ's with Rangers and the Vindicare.
The Knight should build up pressure and harrass stuff in the enemy backline or help out in my backline. Whatever is needed.

I know this list is relativly static and is more on the low side of CP but i think it can work. Had one test game until now and it played out well, but i was out of CP in round 2.

I'm not sure about the single chicken, it was a filler but i think it would be better to get another two 5 man squads of rangers.

C&C welcome


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Mechanicus) [22 PL, 240pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Forge World Choice
. Forge World: Stygies VIII

+ HQ +

Tech-Priest Enginseer [3 PL, 30pts]

Tech-Priest Enginseer [3 PL, 30pts]

+ Troops +

Skitarii Vanguards [4 PL, 40pts]
. 4x Skitarii Vanguard
. Vanguard Alpha: Radium Carbine

Skitarii Vanguards [4 PL, 40pts]
. 4x Skitarii Vanguard
. Vanguard Alpha: Radium Carbine

Skitarii Vanguards [4 PL, 40pts]
. 4x Skitarii Vanguard
. Vanguard Alpha: Radium Carbine

+ Fast Attack +

Ironstrider Ballistarii [4 PL, 60pts]
. Ironstrider Ballistarius: Twin Cognis Autocannon

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Mechanicus) [78 PL, -1CP, 1,147pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Forge World Choice
. Forge World: Ryza

Specialist Detachment: Servitor Maniple [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Tech-Priest Dominus [7 PL, 92pts]: Phosphor Serpenta, Volkite Blaster
. Warlord: Warlord Trait (Codex 1): Monitor Malevolus

Tech-Priest Enginseer [3 PL, 30pts]: Relic: Raiment of the Technomartyr

+ Troops +

Kataphron Destroyers [30 PL, 441pts]
. Kataphron Destroyer: Cognis Flamer, Plasma Culverin
. Kataphron Destroyer: Cognis Flamer, Plasma Culverin
. Kataphron Destroyer: Cognis Flamer, Plasma Culverin
. Kataphron Destroyer: Cognis Flamer, Plasma Culverin
. Kataphron Destroyer: Cognis Flamer, Plasma Culverin
. Kataphron Destroyer: Cognis Flamer, Plasma Culverin
. Kataphron Destroyer: Cognis Flamer, Plasma Culverin
. Kataphron Destroyer: Cognis Flamer, Plasma Culverin
. Kataphron Destroyer: Cognis Flamer, Plasma Culverin

Skitarii Rangers [7 PL, 72pts]
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 3x Skitarii Ranger
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus

Skitarii Rangers [7 PL, 72pts]
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle
. 3x Skitarii Ranger
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus

+ Heavy Support +

Kastelan Robots [24 PL, 440pts]
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. Kastelan Robot: Heavy Phosphor Blaster
. . Two Heavy Phosphor Blasters: 2x Heavy Phosphor Blaster

++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Imperium - Imperial Knights) [25 PL, -2CP, 523pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Exalted Court [-1CP]: Exalted Court: 1 Extra Warlord Trait

Heirlooms of the Household [-1CP]: Heirlooms of the Household: 1 Extra Heirloom

Household Choice: Questor Mechanicus
. House Krast

+ Lord of War +

Knight Crusader [25 PL, 523pts]: Character (Exalted Court), Character (Heirloom of the House), Heavy Stubber, Heirloom (Krast): The Headsman's Mark, Stormspear Rocket Pod, Warlord Trait: Ion Bulwark
. Avenger Gatling Cannon w/ Heavy Flamer: Avenger Gatling Cannon, Heavy Flamer
. Rapid-Fire Battle Cannon w/ Heavy Stubber: Heavy Stubber, Rapid-Fire Battle Cannon

++ Total: [125 PL, -3CP, 1,910pts] ++

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Would it be better to make the Kataphrons a Mars detachment? I know Ryza get the lovely plasma Strategem but if you can squeeze in Belisarius somewhere I can see you losing far fewer models to overheating, as well as boosting the accuracy of your Kastelans.

belesarius makes no difference to overheating

he +2 to hit with strats and then uses the dominous to reroll 1's.

the problem he he has is you cant hide nine kataphrons and if he goes second they die if not its overkill. while he lacks enough screen to protect the kastellans

the list will do ok if it goes first but it bombs if it goes second and a ba smash cpt wrecks it

All true. But i think between the Kastelans, Kataphrons and the Knight i have 3 Units with a punch that can eat some fire so going second is bad but not game breaking.

You are true with a smash captain, but i have more fear of Hive Tyrants and Demon Princes. A smash cpt is infantry and has only low toughness, that i can handle. The same with t6 or t7 gives me more headache. But what to do against it? Hope i survive one round and remove him with shooting, worked for hive tyrants should work for a smash captain, too. My plan was to do enough dmg that i can handle a CC bomb.Worked out well for me in the last games. Any other ideas?

I actually removed 2x Chickens, 5x Infiltrators and 2 Dunecrawlers from my old list to fit in the Crusader. I got wrecked by a 14 Hive Guard, 54 Genestealers+big tunnel bug, some gaunts and 2 Hive Tyrants list.I had problems with the tyrants but could wipe the stealers and stuff in one round, my biggest issue was i couldn't reacht the hive guard behind a los blocker.

I think the Kastelans and Kataphrons did hold up good in my last games, even against really hard CC monsters. But i always felt i lack mobility against stuff in the backfield, i think the Crusader can fill this role. Or any other idea what could give me enough speed and also enough punch to really pressure stuff in the backline?

NIce list, you may want the warlord trait Chorister Technis or the Servitor maniple one, the first to re-roll canticles can come in useful, and the second with a unit of servitors can really make sure you last a long time.

Possibly consider removing the Ironstrider and 1x kastellan robot to allow you to include 10x Sicarian Infiltrators (taser & Flachette) as they can deep strike allowing you to shoot/charge a unit like Hive Guard (if nothing else they can distract them for a turn?)

ALso nice choice with the Knight - minimal CP investment and a high damage threshold for other superheavys (I think this setup will be mose peoples go-to now the Castellan is nerfed)

Warlord trait i answer in your thread.

I like the Infiltrators idea, definitly will try this.