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Basically the title. A friend of mine has an idea for a minor order of battle sisters in the service of the Ordo Malleus instead of the Ordo Hereticus, such that their primary focus is hunting demons instead of heretics. Is that possible for such an order to exist? Or can the sisters only ever have associations with Ordo Hereticus?

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Seems entirely plausible.

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Would seem illogical, they are the Chamber Militant of the Ordo Hereticus, they’re not as independent as Astartes nor as universal as Guardsmen.

Doesn’t necessarily mean they don’t have other reasons for assisting the Ordo Malleus.
   
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The Sisters serve the emperor through the eclissiarchy, no one else. (they haven't been the order millitant of the inqusition since the 5th edition digital codex, the current one makes it clear they stand apart from the inqusition but often work with the ordos hereticus because their goals and duties oft align) that said there's no reason a order of sisters couldn't have a relationship with the ordos mallus instead. if perhaps the minor order's belvies held that "battling the deamon is the greatest exercise of faith"

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Order, probably no. The Ordo Malleus has no real funds to supply a military order over generations and the Eccesliarchy and parent Orders would likely step in should a sisterhood decide to take a path that far outside established doctrine.

The daemon exists as something to be resisted, ideally philosophically, not understood or sought out. Your asking is there a section of the catholic church like Opus Dei or the Devil's Advocate's office in charge of rooting out cases where God was wrong.

That said, if an Inquisitor from the Ordo Malleus did appear at a Convent Minoris after a series of increasingly strange and inconsistant miracles occured - prior to that being more well known, it's easy to see them recruiting the Order to avenge/rescue/redeem whatever it was that needed the former along with their reputation.

So Minoris order dedicated to actual daemon hunting? No.
Minoris order dedicated to holding strange and dogmatically complicated relics, or being very accepting when it comes to those who've experienced the Emperor's touch in all it's forms - including those who've had deamons cast out? Maybe.

An Ordo Xenos Inquisitor recruiting that Order for their current aims? Easily plausible, even if they faked the crazier stuff.

So if it was more short term, an Order dedicated to whatever pressed in the service of an Ordo Malleus Inquisitor (with access to more than usual occult lore) is fine.Maybe even one that signed up with the previous master of the current Inqusitor, sure.

A long term/multi-generational relationship is less likely.
   
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Mighty Vampire Count






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An Inquisitor takes what resources they can get / demand - a Sisters of Battle minor order would need a good reason not to assist such a request.

A relationship (good or bad) can build in an area and they can be seen as a trusted self contained, mobile and powerful force - especially if there were no Astartes nearby. A small order is also less liekly to have their own powerful friends to make the request be turned down.

The Ordo Malleus has no real funds to supply a military order over generations and the Eccesliarchy and parent Orders would likely step in should a sisterhood decide to take a path that far outside established doctrine
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Inquisition is not short of funds or respurces to shift about if it wanted. A squad or two on semi-permanet loan is not a big deal and could be handy for later favours back from the Inquisition - Canoness's can be polticial.

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An Inquisitor can requisition almost anything, but their organisations are pretty loose with no real logistical support. They can say "come with me!" to pretty much anything, but the whole point of the individual trouble shooter is that they can act and react at a faster pace than the Administratum. A sudden unaccounted for change in finances might have knock on effects that jeopardise the whole sector.

An Inquisitor that started trying to set up more permanent organisations is either doing so by manipulating private funding they've pocketed from favours past or stolen identities of previous victims, or is just going to throw a wrench is local Imperial business. Both will get you hunted down as being Radical and out of control pretty quick.
   
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 Tastyfish wrote:
An Inquisitor can requisition almost anything, but their organisations are pretty loose with no real logistical support. They can say "come with me!" to pretty much anything, but the whole point of the individual trouble shooter is that they can act and react at a faster pace than the Administratum. A sudden unaccounted for change in finances might have knock on effects that jeopardise the whole sector.

An Inquisitor that started trying to set up more permanent organisations is either doing so by manipulating private funding they've pocketed from favours past or stolen identities of previous victims, or is just going to throw a wrench is local Imperial business. Both will get you hunted down as being Radical and out of control pretty quick.


Some Inquisitors act as roving troubleshooters - others have permanent bases, armies and power structures - BOTH are present in the lore. They operate in different ways and there are plenty in between

Inqusitiors are all very different and work in different ways.

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"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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 Mr Morden wrote:
 Tastyfish wrote:
An Inquisitor can requisition almost anything, but their organisations are pretty loose with no real logistical support. They can say "come with me!" to pretty much anything, but the whole point of the individual trouble shooter is that they can act and react at a faster pace than the Administratum. A sudden unaccounted for change in finances might have knock on effects that jeopardise the whole sector.

An Inquisitor that started trying to set up more permanent organisations is either doing so by manipulating private funding they've pocketed from favours past or stolen identities of previous victims, or is just going to throw a wrench is local Imperial business. Both will get you hunted down as being Radical and out of control pretty quick.


Some Inquisitors act as roving troubleshooters - others have permanent bases, armies and power structures - BOTH are present in the lore. They operate in different ways and there are plenty in between

Inqusitiors are all very different and work in different ways.


We're talking a group of inqusitors that have their own Shadow Imperium here. Single Inquisitor with an army attached is one thing, a branch of Inquisitors with their own army and plans for a sector that spans generations of future inquisitors are not going to be left unmolested by the rest of the Imperium and other Inquisitors.

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 Tastyfish wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
 Tastyfish wrote:
An Inquisitor can requisition almost anything, but their organisations are pretty loose with no real logistical support. They can say "come with me!" to pretty much anything, but the whole point of the individual trouble shooter is that they can act and react at a faster pace than the Administratum. A sudden unaccounted for change in finances might have knock on effects that jeopardise the whole sector.

An Inquisitor that started trying to set up more permanent organisations is either doing so by manipulating private funding they've pocketed from favours past or stolen identities of previous victims, or is just going to throw a wrench is local Imperial business. Both will get you hunted down as being Radical and out of control pretty quick.


Some Inquisitors act as roving troubleshooters - others have permanent bases, armies and power structures - BOTH are present in the lore. They operate in different ways and there are plenty in between

Inqusitiors are all very different and work in different ways.


We're talking a group of inqusitors that have their own Shadow Imperium here. Single Inquisitor with an army attached is one thing, a branch of Inquisitors with their own army and plans for a sector that spans generations of future inquisitors are not going to be left unmolested by the rest of the Imperium and other Inquisitors.


Cortez is much like that isn't he?

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 Tastyfish wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
 Tastyfish wrote:
An Inquisitor can requisition almost anything, but their organisations are pretty loose with no real logistical support. They can say "come with me!" to pretty much anything, but the whole point of the individual trouble shooter is that they can act and react at a faster pace than the Administratum. A sudden unaccounted for change in finances might have knock on effects that jeopardise the whole sector.

An Inquisitor that started trying to set up more permanent organisations is either doing so by manipulating private funding they've pocketed from favours past or stolen identities of previous victims, or is just going to throw a wrench is local Imperial business. Both will get you hunted down as being Radical and out of control pretty quick.


Some Inquisitors act as roving troubleshooters - others have permanent bases, armies and power structures - BOTH are present in the lore. They operate in different ways and there are plenty in between

Inqusitiors are all very different and work in different ways.


We're talking a group of inqusitors that have their own Shadow Imperium here. Single Inquisitor with an army attached is one thing, a branch of Inquisitors with their own army and plans for a sector that spans generations of future inquisitors are not going to be left unmolested by the rest of the Imperium and other Inquisitors.

Except they are in the actual Lore - and as BD just said one of the few remaining Codex Inquisitors is Croteaz who does exactly that. Mnay of the novels have this, the Codex has this.....

We Lone operatives, Inquisitors with retinues and ships, and Inquisitor Lords and Sector Councils - who monitor other Inquisitors as well - with all the inherent politics of their own Ordo's
and given that Inquisitors usuallyu create a "family" chain of Inqusitors they ofen they form a heirairchaical web of loyalty.

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"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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We have at least on known case - in daemonifuge- of a sororities order founded to guard an entombed daemon, presumably by the malleus.

Obviously this ends badly.


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the grey knights are the military support wing for the malleus. theyre uniquely equipped to do so.

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