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Just a quick throw-together list I'm looking to get some input on.

Main idea is to get the Exos, Immos, and Battle Sanctum on the field. I like having a vertical presence on the field against my opponent in our more "fluffy" games.

C&C obviously welcome

[Change log]

1.) Subbed out Missionary for 3rd Canoness (powersword, boltgun), added Blessed Blade to 2nd Canoness, removed multi-melta, combi-flavor with Stormbolters from celestian squad, and added second stormbolter to Battle Sister Squads.
1.5) WL changed to Beacon/Litanies of Faith to boltpistol Canones
2.) Indomitable Faith replaced with Beacon/Litanies as originally intended


++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Imperium - Adepta Sororitas) [80 PL, 12CP, 1,270pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [12CP]

Order Convictions: Order: Valorous Heart

+ Stratagems +

Open the Reliquaries [-2CP]: 2x Additional Relics of the Ecclesiarchy

+ HQ +

Canoness [3 PL, 59pts]: Blessed Blade, Plasma pistol, Relic: Triptych of the Macharian Crusade

Canoness [3 PL, 54pts]: Plasma pistol, Power sword

Canoness [3 PL, 46pts]: Chainsword, Condemnor Boltgun, Relic: Litanies of Faith, Warlord, Warlord Trait: 4. Beacon of Faith

+ Troops +

Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 49pts]
. 2x Battle Sister: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Boltgun, 2x Frag & Krak grenades
. Battle Sister w/ Special or Heavy Weapon: Storm bolter
. Battle Sister w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter
. Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 49pts]
. 2x Battle Sister: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Boltgun, 2x Frag & Krak grenades
. Battle Sister w/ Special or Heavy Weapon: Storm bolter
. Battle Sister w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter
. Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 49pts]
. 2x Battle Sister: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Boltgun, 2x Frag & Krak grenades
. Battle Sister w/ Special or Heavy Weapon: Storm bolter
. Battle Sister w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter
. Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 49pts]
. 2x Battle Sister: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Boltgun, 2x Frag & Krak grenades
. Battle Sister w/ Special or Heavy Weapon: Storm bolter
. Battle Sister w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter
. Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Battle Sister: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades
. Battle Sister w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter
. Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Battle Sister: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades
. Battle Sister w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter
. Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

+ Elites +

Celestian Squad [4 PL, 54pts]
. 2x Celestian: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Boltgun, 2x Frag & Krak grenades
. Celestian Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
. Celestian w/ Special or Heavy Weapon: Storm bolter
. Celestian w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter

Hospitaller [2 PL, 35pts]

Imagifier [2 PL, -1CP, 45pts]: Heroine in the Making, Relic: Iron Surplice of St Istaela, Tale of the Stoic, Warlord Trait: 5. Indomitable Belief

+ Fast Attack +

Dominion Squad [5 PL, 54pts]
. 2x Dominion: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Boltgun, 2x Frag & Krak grenades
. Dominion Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter

Dominion Squad [5 PL, 54pts]
. 2x Dominion: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Boltgun, 2x Frag & Krak grenades
. Dominion Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter

Dominion Squad [5 PL, 69pts]
. Dominion Superior: Bolt pistol, Combi-plasma
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter

+ Heavy Support +

Exorcist [8 PL, 170pts]: Exorcist Missile Launcher, Heavy bolter

Exorcist [8 PL, 170pts]: Exorcist Missile Launcher, Heavy bolter

Exorcist [8 PL, 170pts]: Exorcist Missile Launcher, Heavy bolter

++ Fortification Network (Imperium - Adepta Sororitas) [3 PL, 50pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Order Convictions: Order: Our Martyred Lady

+ Fortification +

Battle Sanctum [3 PL, 50pts]

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Adepta Sororitas) [24 PL, , 430pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment CP [1CP]

Order Convictions: Order: Bloody Rose

+ HQ +

Missionary [2 PL, 38pts]
. Bolt Pistol and Shotgun

+ Elites +

Imagifier [2 PL, -1CP, 45pts]: Tale of the Stoic, Tale of the Warrior, Venerated Saint

Sisters Repentia [5 PL, 65pts]
. 5x Sisters Repentia: 5x Penitent Eviscerator

Sisters Repentia [5 PL, 65pts]
. 5x Sisters Repentia: 5x Penitent Eviscerator

+ Fast Attack +

Seraphim Squad [4 PL, 83pts]
. 2x Seraphim: 4x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades
. Seraphim Superior: Bolt pistol, Bolt pistol
. Seraphim w/ Special Weapons: 2x Inferno Pistols
. Seraphim w/ Special Weapons: 2x Inferno Pistols

+ Dedicated Transport +

Sororitas Rhino [3 PL, 67pts]: Storm bolter

Sororitas Rhino [3 PL, 67pts]: Storm bolter

++ Total: [107 PL, 12CP, 1,750pts] ++

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What's the other WL trait? Why Power Swords and not a Blessed Blade? Why a 2nd Missionary and not a 3rd Canoness?

Lammia wrote:
What's the other WL trait? Why Power Swords and not a Blessed Blade? Why a 2nd Missionary and not a 3rd Canoness?

1.) 2nd WL trait is on the Imagifier, providing both the ignoring -1ap (-2 w/ Order), and the +1 invuln.

2.) Honestly, not entirely certain about the BB. I've only a couple of games at 1250, and haven't had the chance to attack with the Canoness yet. I'll re-arrange some points to see if I can sneak it in!

3.) It was really just for points.

Lemme do some clean-up and edit the original list!

 tyvb wrote:

Lammia wrote:
What's the other WL trait? Why Power Swords and not a Blessed Blade? Why a 2nd Missionary and not a 3rd Canoness?

1.) 2nd WL trait is on the Imagifier, providing both the ignoring -1ap (-2 w/ Order), and the +1 invuln.

2.) Honestly, not entirely certain about the BB. I've only a couple of games at 1250, and haven't had the chance to attack with the Canoness yet. I'll re-arrange some points to see if I can sneak it in!

3.) It was really just for points.

Lemme do some clean-up and edit the original list!

What's the WL trait on the Canoness then?

Lammia wrote:

 tyvb wrote:

Lammia wrote:
What's the other WL trait? Why Power Swords and not a Blessed Blade? Why a 2nd Missionary and not a 3rd Canoness?

1.) 2nd WL trait is on the Imagifier, providing both the ignoring -1ap (-2 w/ Order), and the +1 invuln.

2.) Honestly, not entirely certain about the BB. I've only a couple of games at 1250, and haven't had the chance to attack with the Canoness yet. I'll re-arrange some points to see if I can sneak it in!

3.) It was really just for points.

Lemme do some clean-up and edit the original list!

What's the WL trait on the Canoness then?

Oh, Beacon of Faith.

I'm also not entirely certain about having two squads of Seraphim tbh. . .

Your imagifier with the extra ap and extra shields -- is that the one for the val hearts or the one for the roses?

Reason I would sort of suggest it the other way is that you got all them bloody roses who aren't immune to ap-1 running around with lousy shields, and all them val hearts who are already easily immune to ap-2.
Once you can ignore anything but antitank dedicated like a lascannon or a plasma as basically unable to affect you in cover (try to stay in cover!_), you don't need lots of 5++ shields, unless someone is hunting your sisters down with meltaguns. I don't believe indomintable belief from the cannoness will stack with indomnitable belief from the imagifier -- so you are basically getting yourself 3+ armor save -- which goes to 3+ for ap 0, 1, 2, and only to 5+ for ap3 or more (as 1 stack of indom. belief already gets you a 5++). Without celest, you can't make it 4++, I believe. (I may be wrong my sisters are still unglued, stupid plague year).

Since you area laready ignore ap 2, and 5++, you can put extra warlord = indom belief on your imagifier (if you can have it twice, can you? I don't know offhand and as alaways book is in my car.) But .. you can also pop the strat for the imagifier roses side to get ap-1 AND song of battle.
Against many a TAC list you can give a much harder time if the ap-1 stuff didn't have any easy target to pick on -- the val heart bubble aroudn the exorcists would still be just as hard to kill, but the better imagifier for the roses would give them a chance to zip in and beat stuff up.

I guess I wouldn't spring for repentia number 2 at all, I personally would put in celestines in the rose side for that imagifier as well, just making the whole army a pain. I thought your having a minipriest on the rose side was done to get the extra attacks, which seems a wise idea with a melee group and all.

-1 ap immunity does nothing for Repentia. 2 small squads is good, it gives you the attacks to drag down big stuff as well as dice little stuff.

Still think a 45 point BR Canoness will do more. That may even be better for Indomitable Belief

Dukeofstuff wrote:
Your imagifier with the extra ap and extra shields -- is that the one for the val hearts or the one for the roses?

Reason I would sort of suggest it the other way is that you got all them bloody roses who aren't immune to ap-1 running around with lousy shields, and all them val hearts who are already easily immune to ap-2.
Once you can ignore anything but antitank dedicated like a lascannon or a plasma as basically unable to affect you in cover (try to stay in cover!_), you don't need lots of 5++ shields, unless someone is hunting your sisters down with meltaguns. I don't believe indomintable belief from the cannoness will stack with indomnitable belief from the imagifier -- so you are basically getting yourself 3+ armor save -- which goes to 3+ for ap 0, 1, 2, and only to 5+ for ap3 or more (as 1 stack of indom. belief already gets you a 5++). Without celest, you can't make it 4++, I believe. (I may be wrong my sisters are still unglued, stupid plague year).

Since you area laready ignore ap 2, and 5++, you can put extra warlord = indom belief on your imagifier (if you can have it twice, can you? I don't know offhand and as alaways book is in my car.) But .. you can also pop the strat for the imagifier roses side to get ap-1 AND song of battle.
Against many a TAC list you can give a much harder time if the ap-1 stuff didn't have any easy target to pick on -- the val heart bubble aroudn the exorcists would still be just as hard to kill, but the better imagifier for the roses would give them a chance to zip in and beat stuff up.

I guess I wouldn't spring for repentia number 2 at all, I personally would put in celestines in the rose side for that imagifier as well, just making the whole army a pain. I thought your having a minipriest on the rose side was done to get the extra attacks, which seems a wise idea with a melee group and all.

I've got the Imagifiers with the -1ap, and +1 to Invuln in the brigade of Valorous Heart. This brings them to the ignoring -2ap, 5++, 6+++. I've got a second Imagifier in the Bloody Rose detachment to give them Repentia +1 strength when near-by; they'll be in a rhino with Imagifier, and the second with the missionary for Zealot buffs as a counter-charge unit of need-be.

You're correct, as you can't have the same WL trait multiple times in the same detach; I'll switch the Canoness up to a back-line buffer, and have the other two as lite-combat units for back-line objective holding. I love the idea of celestians in the BR detachment.




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Lammia wrote:
-1 ap immunity does nothing for Repentia. 2 small squads is good, it gives you the attacks to drag down big stuff as well as dice little stuff.

Still think a 45 point BR Canoness will do more. That may even be better for Indomitable Belief

-1 ap does indeed do nothing; that's why I've got the BR imagifier with Tale of the Warrior, for +1 Strength. There's a good bit of talk between re-rolling 1's plus her attacks and re-rolling all attacks, but having a chansword.

My thinking is, with one squad of Repentia of 5, plus the Imagifier and Missionary will get them 15 strength 8 attacks re-rolling to hit instead of 10 strength 8 attacks; having 30 strength 8 hits is *nasty* (if they get there ofc)

I reckon ap-1 changes its value depending on what you face -- my own army shoots 39 shots of heavy bolters each turn at bs3 and rerolls 1's, so its not a trivial amount of effect that I would lose. I confess that probably colors my thinking about it -- maybe a lot of armies, it would not matter at all.
edit.. dear god, I keep forgetting this nightmare is only 1750 points. I would have slim to zero chance against it with my scions! or none!

tyvb wrote:

Lammia wrote:
-1 ap immunity does nothing for Repentia. 2 small squads is good, it gives you the attacks to drag down big stuff as well as dice little stuff.

Still think a 45 point BR Canoness will do more. That may even be better for Indomitable Belief

-1 ap does indeed do nothing; that's why I've got the BR imagifier with Tale of the Warrior, for +1 Strength. There's a good bit of talk between re-rolling 1's plus her attacks and re-rolling all attacks, but having a chansword.

My thinking is, with one squad of Repentia of 5, plus the Imagifier and Missionary will get them 15 strength 8 attacks re-rolling to hit instead of 10 strength 8 attacks; having 30 strength 8 hits is *nasty* (if they get there ofc)

I agree, you definitely want a Missionary. But you can put it in the VH detachment and potentially get 9 S5 ap-4 attacks if everything works out. (8 s4 attacks without any help)


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Dukeofstuff wrote:
I reckon ap-1 changes its value depending on what you face -- my own army shoots 39 shots of heavy bolters each turn at bs3 and rerolls 1's, so its not a trivial amount of effect that I would lose. I confess that probably colors my thinking about it -- maybe a lot of armies, it would not matter at all.
edit.. dear god, I keep forgetting this nightmare is only 1750 points. I would have slim to zero chance against it with my scions! or none!

Repentia are 7+/6++(SoF)/5+++ saves though