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Made in nl
Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks






your mind

I was reading some 9th ed rules, and wondering what I could do with a set of three old (2nd ed era, including early GK (I think)) terminators that I have converted/designed as a strike team and as a bodyguard for an (also classic model) Inquisitor in terminator armor.

Looking for advice here, on how these models might be fielded, given current rules.
Can I add them as an "understrength" unit?
Can I add them as an attachment to a character in some way?
Suggestions?

I am not worried about so-called "competitive" play, but I also don't want to field illegal armies if/when I use these models in a game with people who might be more concerned about winning and losing.
Plus, I would like to capture the intent of the game and this unit in current rules, and I am simply no expert here, so I need Dakka's help!

Maybe useful info about context:
They may serve as part of a space marine army with scouts, tacticals and devastators, supported by a LR crusader and dreadnought.
They may also serve as a part of an Inquisiton force, with IG including ogryns etc, hellhound and banewolf.
They may also serve as part of a small Sisters force, with exorcist, mixed sisters and characters.
Or, they may serve in some mixture of these.



   
Made in gb
Smokin' Skorcha Driver




London UK

The understrength unit rule was created because they were selling boxes with less models than the min size of the squad from the respective codex. For example ETB plaguemarines.

In matched play that rule is not allowed in 9th. However in open or narrative play its a discussion you need to have with your opponent. Or customise 2 more for your squad or further customise them to make them proxy for other character models.
   
Made in gb
Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest





Stevenage, UK

Nithaniel's already covered the "understrength" aspect of things. The other big question that needs asking is - how are they kitted out?

"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch  
   
Made in gb
Dakka Veteran





You could run them individually as character models. Captain in Terminator Armour, Librarian in Terminator Armour, Chaplain in Terminator Armour and Ancient in Terminator Armour are all options.

You could also proxy them as something that doesn't wear terminator armour. Company Veterans come in a squad of 2-5 and can be given wargear like storm shields and thunder hammers. Some chapters have their own variants that allow slightly different weapons.


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Made in nl
Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks






your mind

 Bilge Rat wrote:
You could run them individually as character models. Captain in Terminator Armour, Librarian in Terminator Armour, Chaplain in Terminator Armour and Ancient in Terminator Armour are all options.

You could also proxy them as something that doesn't wear terminator armour. Company Veterans come in a squad of 2-5 and can be given wargear like storm shields and thunder hammers. Some chapters have their own variants that allow slightly different weapons.



Thanks for all of the responses!
I had sort of been through this series of responses in my head while working these models up:
Add more terminators? Maybe later.
Characters? Have a lot of character models... but maybe. Ancient, Chap and Libby are 3 ... I can do exactly that.
The load outs should work - anyways, magnets. I will update as I look at the options later tonight, maybe link some pics.

Veterans? Maybe. Old and not so big, they are terminator models. I would have to push past the resistance to this fact to deviate from WYSIWYG.




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Made in ca
Neophyte undergoing Ritual of Detestation




Hemet, California

I'm guessing GK are out of the question. But if not then you could run them as a squad of paladins since the min squad for them is 3

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 Elbows wrote:
I think it's pretty telling that almost no one on this board has ever stated or encountered people actually trying to pull off nonsense like this. So it really boils down to epeenery.
 
   
Made in nl
Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks






your mind

 The Sentinel wrote:
I'm guessing GK are out of the question. But if not then you could run them as a squad of paladins since the min squad for them is 3


I did consider this, and I have some GK collected - enough for a small force, maybe 1000points - but these are in the USA with a lot of other stuff that is not here and probably won't be if and until I fly there to pick it up and bring it back, which is not likely to be soon.

Indeed, one model has an old nemiesis force sword, and another has what I think must be a force axe (maybe?), and the third has a heavy flamer (for now, but... I have options)..

So, question - how could I add three paladins to an Inquitorial, Sisters, or marine force? It seems that single faction armies are heavily encouraged. Is it even possible to simply add this unit to another army?

   
Made in gb
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You can put a single unit in an auxiliary support detachment as long as your whole army shares a faction keyword like IMPERIUM. However, this costs you 2 command points, which is a pretty steep cost for a unit that isn't particularly special on its own and that will not be able to benefit from buffs and stratagems used by the rest of your army. If you already have an additional Inquisition detachment then you are already going to be paying extra for that as well.

You can also include Grey Knight palladins in the same detachment as other Space Marines since they are all ADEPTUS ASTARTES, but this stops the other marines from getting bonuses like chapter tactics and stratagems. The penalties are pretty harsh.

Of course if you are not playing competitively then your play group may be happy to ignore these restrictions for the sake of one small unit.

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